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Offline Jason F

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357 to 35 whelan
« on: July 10, 2011, 05:59:52 PM »
Would it be worth converting 357 barrel to a 35 whelen
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2011, 07:17:37 PM »
Sure, twist on modern barrels is slightly faster in the 357mag, 1:15½" vs 1:16", but you can get the 35 Whelen rifle in 3 different models, and there are also accessory barrels available, both with and without sights, but if you already have an extra 357 on hand, why not.  ;)
 
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 08:22:54 AM »
How about making it 35/30-40Krag?
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 08:26:49 AM »
What is parent case a 30-30 do you just fireform for the brass
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 08:28:46 AM »
What kind of ballistics do you get from it
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 08:57:19 AM »
There has been a 35/30-30 for many years, and likewise the 35/30-40Krag which IIRC has a case capacity closer to the Whelan? There has been at least one recent thread about similar things, perhaps someone can link to it. I think it was also said that the 35/30-30 has a capacity similar to the 35 Rem.?
The 35/30-30 would be fairly easy and ballistics of either would be found, or extrapolated, from similar capacity/caliber rounds. For me, it would be to use the nice selection of cast bullets more than looking for ultimate velocity. The rimmed case is also a plus for me and the extractor/ejector would be 30-30, maybe the 444M for the 30-40K?
Add then the 'cool factor' of the conversion.........
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 09:11:47 AM »
The parent case is a 30-06. I found a bunch of brass at a gun show. In a handi rifle they kick like a mule. The first thing I did was to install a recoil pad. You can shoot .357 pistol bullets (loaded in Whelen cases) and 35 Remington 180s. I loaded 220 and 250 grain bullets.


Lotta hassle for a cheap moose or elk gun.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,237096.0/topicseen.html


PS the cartridge was named after Townsend Whelen. Kinda funny - when I had mine rechambered the gunsmith - now retired - marked it 35 Whelan. I use it for whelan on them big critters.
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 06:52:18 PM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on July 10, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
Sure, twist on modern barrels is slightly faster in the 357mag, 1:15½" vs 1:16", but you can get the 35 Whelen rifle in 3 different models, and there are also accessory barrels available, both with and without sights, but if you already have an extra 357 on hand, why not.  ;)
 
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The main reason, I can think of is the cost.  Why rebarrel a rifle to that caliber when you can just as easily buy a barrel.  A little patience will get you one used.  Don't know if there are accessory barrels available at this time, but if Tim says there are, they're probably available.
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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 07:08:44 PM »
You could also recoup at least half the cost by selling the .357 mag barrel.  If you factor in the selling of the old barrel and buying a new one against the cost of the conversion, you may end up close to even money for a better barrel.  I think a factory .357 W barrel would likely shoot better than a conversion...

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Re: 357 to 35 whelan
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 06:39:19 AM »
35 Whelen acc barrels were available recently, but as always, that can change, best to check with Brian before sending a frame in, but as I previously stated, the rifle is available in 3 flavors, syn, wood and Handi-grip, Bud's has all three in stock w/free shipping and considering the cost $160 cost of an accessory barrel  ?...... http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_262

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