can i shoot 45 outta my 410 pardner?

[Joe S.]

Can I shoot 45LC out of a NEF pardner 410? I'm sure it won't be THAT accurate but is it unsafe? I'd just be doing it for fun, ya know blowing up water melons, etc. Maybe home defense? Not for hunting tho... Cylinder bore. 18" barrel.

[sachel.45]

NO. The .410 is just that a .410. Try shoving a .45 through a .41 hole it's not going to be preety. Now if you have a .410/.45lc then yes but it will be stamped on the side of your barrel like that. If it's not stamped on the side of the barrel theres probably a reason.

[Joe S.]

It is definately a 410 only. Didn't realise the bore sizes were that different. Thanks

[Joe S.]

So can you shoot a 410 out of say, a 45/70 or 444?

I've heard some people say they have shot em out of one of those it seems like...

[sachel.45]

no worries. I apologize if my post came across as rude. I just reread it and it seems a little harsh. As to the .410 out of a .45/70 or .444 that i don't know. I think I remember seeing a .45/70 that shot .410 as well but I think it was custom job. Somebody should be able to answer that better than I can.

[Joe S.]

No worries. I'm glad ya cleared it up. I was just curious if I cud use it in the same manner as the survivor (think its called that)

[jedman]

 Joe S,   The 410 /  2 1/2" might chamber and fire out of a 45-70 but I would not do it, the chamber has a  much larger inside diameter and firing a 410 the shotshell case would be unsupported and may rupture.
  I doubt that you could chamber a 410 in a 444 due to the longer case of the 410 shell.
 Myself and a friend have experimented with making 410 slug guns using a 444 chambered barrel on a H & R handi rifle.
 It can be done but you must trim the shotshell case by about 9/32 ", taper the OD of the case or inside ream and run the 410 case thru a 444 sizing die plus open the rim recess for the larger rim on the 410 case.
 Not something you would want to do just to fire 410's .        Jedman

[mechanic]

It's been said before, but if it's safe, it will be stamped on the barrel.  I fear with all the new guns that are chambered for both will create confusion and perhaps incidents. 

Be safe first!

Ben

[gjdykeman]

I have read stories of old farmers using a 45 colt round in a 410 shotgun to put down an animal. I believe they were using cowboy type loads, BP and all lead bullets. Soft lead will swag and go down the barrel. The question is why. They did for necessity, not for fun. I personally have fired 45 ACP rounds with a hand load of trail boss and a 430, all lead, round ball, Patched to hold it in the case, out of of my 410 Tamer. Fired and went down range. No practical purpose, just an experiment. I used a thin rubber O-Ring to hold the shells up against the rim cut. Worked fine. Heck my son put a 22lr in my 17 HMR and fired it down range. Hit the target at 50y. He was seriously admonished and retrained. It did fire with no issues. Again all lead. There is just no reason to try it.

[bikerbeans]

Hi Joe,

If you want to shoot a projectile out of your smoothbore 410 then you can always buy factory 410 slugs.  If you want to shoot projectiles out of your 410 and not pay $1.00 a piece then you can shoot swaged lead round balls out of a 410 hull.  If you get a round ball about .41  to .412 diameter you should be able to finger seat it in the hull.  Then you just need hulls, range pickup if you have the tools to reprime, or buy primed hulls for a about $0.18 each - Midway has them I believe.   I have done this using H110 powder and it is a very low recoil load.  Since you are throwing a "knuckleball" so to speak you need to either have a big target or be pretty close.

BB

[Spanky]

I've got an old beater 410 barrel that's cut off to 18". I shoot 44 specials through it (soft lead cowboy loads) and it doesn't seem to hurt anything.  It's not real accurate though.



Spanky

[PHATINJUN]

Since you want to "blow up melons" use only ammo specific to your gun and you should be safe and not blow up your own melon. That would ruin all the fun for everyone. Kurt

[pastorp]

The correct & safe answer is "NO" only chamber & fire the rounds that are stamped on the barrell.    If something bad happens you have no recourse, your on your own.........For you guys that are advising differently, You as well as GBO could be named in a lawsuit if someone follows your advise and gets hurt....

Regards,

[Andrew Quigley]

Read an article somewhere, the Backwoodsman, about using 444 cases in a .410 shotgun. They were loading the 444 as shotgun shells.

[SHOOTALL]

Wonder what the forcing cone is experincing as the bullet swages down ?

[Joe S.]

Thanks for the replies yall. I actually ended up selling the shotgun so no issue here

[mcwoodduck]

I understand this is moot but why not just shoot 410 slugs when you want a single projectile and shoot shot when you want upland game or birds.
When I first got my 44 Mag rifle I thought it would be a great everything gun and use it to hunt deer and squirrels.  I got a bunch of the CCI shot shells for the 44 Mag.
The rifleing flings the shot out as others have said.
The 410 throws about a 100 grain bullet at 1000  to 1200 FPS. 
About the power of a 32 H&R Mag.
 

[S.E.Ak]

And one must remember its .410 till you get to the choke which is usually full and make the exit hole even smaller.Ya a .410 will fire out of a 45/70 but its a pain cleaning the plastic of the wad from the rifleing