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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 02:39:44 PM »
Yep, all of us who are playing with black powder in smaller cartridge guns owe a big debt of gratitude to John Kort. He has done more for black powder shooters than anybody else I can think of recently, and has spent a tremendous amount of time and resources to learn and help others to have success in this venture, for centerfire and rimfire enthusiasts. Whenever you see his posts on the various forums you can thank him for his work and take what he says as truth.

Plus, I won a pistol caliber levergun match yesterday shooting black powder and using tricks I have learned from him over time. I would never have thought it would work so well, but he did all the hard work and figured it out for us!
"Give me a lever long enough, and a place to stand, and I'll break the lever."

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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 05:30:15 AM »
Nobade, such a real factual and nice post about John Kort.  He is not just into shooting groups.  He studies the historical information, collects the historical ammunition, analyzes the rounds, then copies the historical rounds and only then shoots targets.
  I got a call one day from John ... 'I've got these UMC 40gr 22LR rounds that I dissected.  Any chance screening the powder for me?"  Now we know the grain ratios of black powder that was used to load UMC 40gr ammunition.  If we only knew what powder UMC then we would have the full story.

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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 06:19:47 PM »
Shooting the .22 rim fire with black powder is fun but loading those little cases is tough with my big fingers.
But the accuracy dont take the back seat to the high end match ammo.
Dont go were the path leads,go were there is no path and leave a trail.

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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 07:42:53 PM »
When I read the topic I had to smile.
When i was a Jr camp staff member we had to set up the opening camp fire.
So I had this great idea.  We would shoot a flaming arrow from the cliff into the fire to start it.
So we streched fishing line from a tree to the fire pit.  I asked my father to bring about a dixie cup full of green dot with him when my troop came up for their week.  So we mounted the arrow to the fishing line.  Wrap it with a rag and soak the rag in lighter fluid.  The story is told and we shoot the arrow that hits the green dot and it flares up lighting the small sticks we had.
So the next week it was my buddy who owrked on the rifle range who was going to make the fire and wanted to do the same thing.  He wentto the rifle range and got all the miss fires and pulled the BLACK power out of the donated rounds we had and all said and done he blew small sticks all over the front row.  He thought gun powder was gun powder.
 

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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 04:00:14 PM »
 ;D ;D  I can visualize that :) :)
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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 12:00:39 PM »
Here's some 'stuff' shooting them Black Powder 22LR reloads:

http://www.theopenrange.net/forum/index.php?topic=8762.0
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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 05:17:59 PM »
Here is an example of what a .22 blk powder round is capable of doing.
Here are three 5 shot groups each using Wolf match on the top three groups and the three 5 shot groups on the side were shot using 4 grains of blk powder loaded in new pre primed cases. The groups were shot using the low wall at 50 yards.
The interesting thing using blk in the .22 it shot better as the barrel got fouled. Something I cant do with the larger calibers.
 
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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 03:29:24 PM »
Here's some more about our 22lr BP reloading adventure ... w44wcf - Baja Traveler and myself:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417601
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Re: Stepping Back into Time - 22LR ... Black Powder
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 01:28:57 PM »
Another new thread with more details about the 'Stepping Back into Time' project ...
http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=130946
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