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Offline Lloyd Smale

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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #150 on: July 21, 2011, 01:57:44 AM »
yup still have the polaris rzr and my jeep. I just got rid of the rhino though as it was just getting to hard on me to ride it.
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Thought you had some kind of a side by side 4 wheeler you rode off road. You get rid of that?  :o
 
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2011, 02:00:52 AM »
did some drag racing in VA in the early 70s. Nothing to serious. I had a 340 duster that had some work done to it that i bracket raced. It ended up with a 440 in it before i moved out of there. there was just nothing but street racing up here.
No need to worry about me lloyd.  The way I feel about things is there is nobody on the internet who impresses me or intimidates me. I will be 67 shortly, I have been shot at in my younger days and I am still here so I don't worry about much now.  The only time I get upset is if someone falsely accuses me of something or they imply something about me.  I don't stay upset for long though as I just consider the source and move on.  I tend to take everything I read on the internet with at least one grain of salt and with some people quite a bit more than one grain.  I tend to listen to friends who I shoot and hunt with as they have been around such as I have and I know I can depend on them.  I say what I feel and that is the way I am although I am a lot easier going now than when I was younger.  BTW you were about five years old when I started my drag racing career, I sometimes hate to think about how fast time passes by.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #152 on: July 22, 2011, 06:47:03 AM »
One of the best looking rifles I ever had IMO was a Winchester 70. As it was it didn't shoot very well. A Rem 700 Classic in 350 Rem Mag was very nice and shot excellent.
A Ruger 77 is good looking IMO, the one I got now also shoots very well. For lever guns an early 450M Guide looks good to me or a Browing BLR.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #153 on: August 09, 2011, 02:53:45 PM »
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One of the custom action builders just told me to stick with the factory 700's for an over the counter rifle ,except for the Savage F-Class model.
Gunsmiths who have used Remington actions to build benchrest rifles have related that Remingtons quality control has gone down over the past 10 years.   

The are having to do more precision machining and accuracy work than before when building super accurate rifles useing the 700 action as a basis.

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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #154 on: August 10, 2011, 02:59:08 AM »
One of the custom action builders just told me to stick with the factory 700's for an over the counter rifle.

Good advise...
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #155 on: August 22, 2011, 03:42:53 AM »
Anyone know the story on the current owners of Remington?
 
How's their quality, I know the new Marlins quality has sure gone down since remington bought them out. That's my opinion at least.

It seems like all the oldtime American gun makers are in trouble in one way or another. Sure hope they can survive.

Whats your take on all this, Do you think the american made firearms industry is doomed?

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Both the Remington and Marlin brands are part of the Freedom Group of Cerebus.  Here in the virtual reality of the "Intermess," Freedom Group is often loathed for letting "corporate greed" and "profit" stand in the way of delivering a quality product.  Personally, I don't buy in to blaming Freedom Group / Cerebus for the issues that Remington and Marlin have. I think both companies were on a downhill slide before they became a part of Freedom Group.
 
Last week, while at a big gun store in Tulsa to pick up reloading supplies, a Marlin XT-22 caught my eye.  On examining the rifle in the shop, I was very impressed with the high level of fit and finish it exhibited.  The thing is simply perfect in build.  Wood to metal fits are precise.  The polish and blue job done is "old school Remington" all the way (so it is more than acceptably nice).  I am not one to impulse buy, but at $135.80, NOT buying the rifle wasn't an option.   I took it to the the range the next day and I still cannot believe how darn good this rifle is -how smooth and precise the action feels, how crisp and creep-free the trigger is,  and how accurate the rifle is.  I have had a 541-T, an A-Bolt .22, and a CZ 452-2E, and in terms of accuracy, this new XT-22 beats them all, hands down.  To be frank, it is unbelievable accurate.
 
If everything Remington made was like this "Marlin" XT-22 made in Remington's Mayfield, KY plant, I'd be a bigger "Big Green" fanatic than Mr. Swampman is.  It's just that darn good.  It has been a long, long time since I have been this satisfied with a new gun purchase. 
 
So maybe Remington and Marlin have had their problems.  But if they can turn out something as good as my XT-22, the can turn out thousands more that are just as nice.  This gives me cause to hope that Freedom Group might be able to restore these brands back to their former respected positions in the marketplace.  While the Marlin lever actions that I've seen that have come out of Illion haven't impressed me (depressed is a better word), the most recent 700 CDLs, 750's and 1100 Sportings that I've seen have appeared flawless.
 
It might be a while before I throw down on a new Marlin lever action.  But if I had more money burning a hole in my pocket, there were some very nice CDL's at the store where I bought my XT-22 that I would very much like to take home, as well as a stunning and perfect in every way 1100 Sporting 28 gauge that is calling my name.
 
I have been pretty critical of Remington and Marlin products, but those brands haven't lost me as a potential future customer yet.  Based on the experience I've had with the XT-22 and the perfection of the CDLs I've seen lately, they are very likely to get more of my business in the near future.
 
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #156 on: August 22, 2011, 05:55:22 AM »
Once again, Remington bought and owns Marlin.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #157 on: August 22, 2011, 11:09:56 AM »
Is it not true then that Cerebus shut down Marlin?
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #158 on: August 22, 2011, 12:47:00 PM »
Remington would have to do that, and they haven't.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2011, 02:20:30 AM »
Once again, Remington bought and owns Marlin.

Who says they didn't?
 
Fact:  Cerberus owns Freedom Group.  Freedom Group owns Remington.  Remington bought Marlin.
 
Fact: Cerberus' Freedom Group owns the Remington and Marlin BRANDS.
 
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2011, 02:42:47 AM »
I repeat, Remington owns Marlin.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #161 on: August 27, 2011, 10:16:58 AM »
and cerbus owns remington
I repeat, Remington owns Marlin.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #162 on: August 27, 2011, 05:14:23 PM »
Exactly....it matters.
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #163 on: September 01, 2011, 03:07:41 AM »
  Hey swampy;
           I haven't been here in a long time, but I see you're still beating that dead horse... ;) :D ;D ;D
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Re: Remington firearms
« Reply #164 on: September 12, 2011, 05:20:23 PM »
 I just traded my Winchester model 88 308 Win. in on a new Remington model 7600 Carbine 30-06 Spr. two weeks ago.  The fit and finish is absolutely awesome.  Both the metal and wood are excellent.  The bluing is mirror polished.  The stock and forearm are nice and dark, the checkering is nice.  I couldn't be more pleased.  I haven't shot it yet.  Hopefully this coming weekend I'll be able to sight it in.  The last 7600 Carbine I had was a real shooter, hopefully this one is too!
 
We put a Remington made Marlin 336Y 30-30 Win. (12" LOP stock and 16.25" barrel) on layaway for my son for Christmas.  The fit and finish is nowhere as nice as my new 7600 Carbine or my Marlin made 336C 35 Rem.  The metal is nice but the wood isn't anything to write home about at all.  We got a great deal on it so we bought it planning on cleaning up or changing the stock and forearm later.  Remington definitely needs to address some issues with the Marlin rifles they're producing ASAP. 

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