Author Topic: Ruger Accuracy (Read 8301 times)

Swampman · « **Reply #60 on:** June 23, 2011, 02:53:32 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on June 23, 2011, 01:52:16 AM

I don't expect to do anything but install a scope .

That's why I buy Remingtons....

Ladobe · « **Reply #61 on:** June 23, 2011, 08:08:49 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on June 23, 2011, 02:53:32 AM

Quote from: SHOOTALL on June 23, 2011, 01:52:16 AM
I don't expect to do anything but install a scope .

That's why I buy Remington's....

So Remington's come with scopes mounted on them from the factory now? Are they made in Nanyang by any chance?

Just funning you Mark. I've had my share of both Ruger's and Remy's (and lots of other brands, domestic and imported). I like some of the Remy's OK. But I've never sent a Ruger back for repairs in the 40+ years I've owned them, and can't say the same for Remington. All my Remy rifles are long gone, but I still have some of my Ruger's.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #62 on:** June 23, 2011, 08:19:21 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on June 23, 2011, 02:53:32 AM

Quote from: SHOOTALL on June 23, 2011, 01:52:16 AM
I don't expect to do anything but install a scope .

That's why I buy Remingtons....

You got to admit Ruger bases are more solid !

Swampman · « **Reply #63 on:** June 23, 2011, 08:26:35 AM »

I don't like being forced to use factory rings.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #64 on:** June 23, 2011, 08:34:16 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on June 23, 2011, 08:26:35 AM

I don't like being forced to use factory rings.

You aren't with ruger there are several aval. I mentioned bases

yooper77 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:14:08 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on June 23, 2011, 08:34:16 AM

Quote from: Swampman on June 23, 2011, 08:26:35 AM
I don't like being forced to use factory rings.
You aren't with ruger there are several aval. I mentioned bases

Yep other companies make ring for Ruger's, but the Ruger medium rings that came with my Ruger M77 MKII rifle in 270 Winchester are so strong, solid and accurate supporting the Leupold Vari-X II 3-9x40 mm scope.

yooper77

Swampman · « **Reply #66 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:37:55 AM »

Having owned a great many, I just don't care for Ruger longguns.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #67 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:38:42 AM »

Great more for us

Hooker · « **Reply #68 on:** June 23, 2011, 03:52:05 PM »

I have one early 77 mkII 308 in stainless with the ugly billboard stock.
It was a bit of a challenge to get it to shoot well but the work paid off nicely.
Pillar bedding free floating the barrel and a good trigger with some really good handloads.
It's a solid tight 1/2 MOA performer now.
I don't know who originally came up with the quote that only accurate guns are interesting , but I'm sure he was either lazy or non-adventurous.
I find the guns that need to be persuaded to be accurate are far more interesting than those that don't need any persuasion.
But then again the more accurate a rifle becomes the more potential it has for just a little bit more persuasion

Pat

alan in ga · « **Reply #69 on:** June 23, 2011, 03:56:47 PM »

I remember a 22" stainless Ruger 77 Mark II sporter barrel in .308 Win. Shot it and got about 3/4" accuracy without any load development, just 'put together' loads. Removed the barrel and sold it to Jim the Plumber in Idaho, who put it on an action he had for his daughter. They got just under 1/2" with it! Ruger does put a good barrel on a rifle here and there but it's...well, it's pot luck.
I would REALLY like a Mannlicher stainless in walnut in .358 Win, and it wouldn't even have to shoot under an inch!

xhare · « **Reply #70 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:00:13 PM »

My MkII 7mm Mauser easily shoots an inch or under at 100 yards with Hornady ammo. It has the old style "skeletonized" synthetic stock.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #71 on:** June 24, 2011, 03:48:18 AM »

The most important thing to remember in a debate about accuracy of a gun is the gun is but part of the team. And the gun has less influnce on the shot than the shooter in most cases. Yet it can't defene itself in the debate !

Think about it a bit ! In any massed produced product you will have some that display less than ideal preformance and other that exceed expectations . Most will be good reliable shooters that can match or exceed the shooter using them.

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #72 on:** June 26, 2011, 01:28:45 PM »

Fired the first 3 rounds into 3/4 " at 100 yards. Shot the next 3 into 4" at 300 yards. Ruger Customer Service did a good job on this rifle. The 300 yard group was on swinging steel. I'm sure it would tighten up on a paper target.

nomosendero · « **Reply #73 on:** June 26, 2011, 04:22:27 PM »

Quote from: rugerfan.64 on June 26, 2011, 01:28:45 PM

Fired the first 3 rounds into 3/4 " at 100 yards. Shot the next 3 into 4" at 300 yards. Ruger Customer Service did a good job on this rifle. The 300 yard group was on swinging steel. I'm sure it would tighten up on a paper target.

Good news, glad it is working this time.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #74 on:** June 27, 2011, 01:16:25 AM »

glad its shooting. Ruger sure has troubles getting 257 roberts 77s to shoot for some reason.

Quote from: rugerfan.64 on June 26, 2011, 01:28:45 PM

Fired the first 3 rounds into 3/4 " at 100 yards. Shot the next 3 into 4" at 300 yards. Ruger Customer Service did a good job on this rifle. The 300 yard group was on swinging steel. I'm sure it would tighten up on a paper target.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #75 on:** June 28, 2011, 12:10:12 PM »

just got off the phone with there service dept. I took some wining and convincing but they are going to rebarel my .264 so there taking care of me again too.

Quote from: rugerfan.64 on June 26, 2011, 01:28:45 PM

Fired the first 3 rounds into 3/4 " at 100 yards. Shot the next 3 into 4" at 300 yards. Ruger Customer Service did a good job on this rifle. The 300 yard group was on swinging steel. I'm sure it would tighten up on a paper target.

Ladobe · « **Reply #76 on:** June 28, 2011, 02:19:14 PM »

It's the squeaky wheel that gets oiled Lloyd.

Maybe I've just been lucky for 40+ years, but I've never had a Ruger rifle or pistol that didn't shoot well whether bought new in the box or used except those "bleeping" 10/22's, never had any breakage, never lost any parts, etc. But I also never had a 257 Bob from them or any of their Mk II 77's either. So I've never had to deal with Ruger's customer service other than a call to get them to stop sending me all the conversion offers when they went to the transfer bar in their SA's, and to get free copies of missing manuals once.

Larry

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #77 on:** June 29, 2011, 02:37:17 AM »

you did better then me. My 264 had a pressure problem and im sure they were worried about the liability. The last 257 rob 77 i had would only shoot 3 inch 100 yard groups and they told me that met there standards for accuracy and i was sol. The other two .257s i had before it just got sold but i got fed up on that one and believe me i tried as hard as i did this time and theyd have nothing to do with helping me. I was pretty nervous when buying this #1 in 257. Luckily its at least a decent shooter.

Quote from: Ladobe on June 28, 2011, 02:19:14 PM

It's the squeaky wheel that gets oiled Lloyd.

Maybe I've just been lucky for 40+ years, but I've never had a Ruger rifle or pistol that didn't shoot well whether bought new in the box or used except those "bleeping" 10/22's, never had any breakage, never lost any parts, etc. But I also never had a 257 Bob from them or any of their Mk II 77's either. So I've never had to deal with Ruger's customer service other than a call to get them to stop sending me all the conversion offers when they went to the transfer bar in their SA's, and to get free copies of missing manuals once.

Larry

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 02, 2011, 03:28:45 PM »

It really is hit or miss with Ruger,,,,,literally. I actually like their rifles,daughters 260 is a reliable 3/4 incher when we do our part,old 25/06 shoots clover leaves with the right loads. I would be very skeptical about the next one. Hope that 264 comes back good for ya LLoyd, I'd love to see how it looks with that stock work you were going to have done. Good Luck, hope it doesnt take 2 trips to get it right for you.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #79 on:** July 03, 2011, 02:19:09 AM »

this will actually be trip three

tacotime · « **Reply #80 on:** July 13, 2011, 06:54:18 AM »

Never had a 77 or even knew anyone who did until I ended up with a 77-II in an unexpected trade recently being a 350 Rem.

It shot three factory 200s into 1/3 inch at 100, but with a flyer next, probably me. I was impressed.

On the other hand, I'm now investigating not being able to get a decent group out of a #1 in .375. Might be my handloads or method, still reviewing... but in the other #1 and #3s I tried, they would not outshoot my Rem. Mod. 7 youth model .243, but were acceptable to me and would have hit close on any game if it had been a shot on game.

dannyfro · « **Reply #81 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:20:30 AM »

Hey guys saw the thread and was curious what all you guys have done to improve accuracy? I just picked up a stainless zytel stock Ruger 77 in 300 Win Mag. It shoots fair with handloads but only tried a few had it about a week. shoots on averal 1.4" groups which is far better than my first Ruger which would rarely even hit 3" at 100 yards. I know the triggers are stiff and drop ins are the idea how much are Timneys? Also I have had heard people tell me to remove the pressure point from the forend then others say that messes up accuracy. I also heard there very finicky about how much you have to tighten everything back down when putting it back together. Any advice you guys could give would be greatly appreciated.

Dan

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 21, 2011, 04:53:53 PM »

Trigger spring can be replaced with a ball point pen spring cut to the appropriate length. Two of my Rugers are free floated and do very nicely, my daughters 260 is as it came from the box and will shoot under an inch when we do our part. 95 inch pounds on the recoil lug screw. I like the synthetic stocks better than the wood.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #83 on:** August 24, 2011, 01:57:23 AM »

got the 264 back yesterday with a new barrel on it. Its to the range today to see if its better.

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #84 on:** August 24, 2011, 08:30:15 AM »

Bought another stainless Hawkeye .30-06 about a week ago---mounted a scope and took it out this last sunday---from bore sight to proper point of aim it took me 3 shots---I love it when things work so easy.

Then started shooting groups--was immediately getting MOA groups with Winchester 165gn power points.It didn't like the 180gn loads I had--giving 2-3in groups---150gn groups weren't too shabby either.

Not bad for the first time out with a fresh gun/scope combo----with a little tweaking and load development---I'm pretty sure I can tighten things up even more. The more and more I have different rifles--I'm also getting the opinion they tighten up just by shooting them---meaning don't form an opinion about your new rifle until you have at least 100-200 rounds through it first.

Swampman · « **Reply #85 on:** August 24, 2011, 10:23:38 AM »

I never expect a 6 MOA rifle to become a 1 MOA rifle.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #86 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:40:21 PM »

dont understand your post. I didnt see anyone refering to a 6moa gun.

Quote from: Swampman on August 24, 2011, 10:23:38 AM

I never expect a 6 MOA rifle to become a 1 MOA rifle.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #87 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:44:01 PM »

well heres the deal with the 264. Its a bit finiky. Many loads between 1.5 and 2 inch at a 100 yards. Thats for 5 shots fired without much cool down time. Its the way i test all the guns i own. Never figured i had 5 minutes to cool down a gun in the field if i missed the first shot. One load stood out though. It was 70 grains of re25 a fed match mag primer and a nos 120 ballistic tip. It went into an average of an inch for 3 5 shot groups. Not going to win any bench rest competitions but plenty accurate for poking deer out to 400 plus yards.

rugerfan.64 · « **Reply #88 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:45:05 PM »

Glad to hear it Lloyd. I might get a little po'd at Ruger from time to time,but they chamber their rifles in stuff that I really like. Not just what sells the most,like that "other firearms mfg" company that begins with r. They make really nice looking rifles,77,#1's. Chamber them in interesting rounds. I might have to look really hard the next time I am rifle shopping but its always been a toss up between Browning A bolts and Ruger M 77's. Good luck with that 264.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #89 on:** August 26, 2011, 02:36:52 AM »

im not a fan of brownings for the same reason im not a fan of weatherby markV and bdl remingtons. I more into a classic looking gun. the bbrs and abolts werent to bad but to me the xbolt is dog ugly. What i like is something like a 77r and especially these new hawkeys, a reminton classic or a win featherweight and even cdl remingtons. I think that ruger makes one of the best looking rifles especially since they made the hawkeye and they make them in chamberings i actually want instead of generic chamberings like most manufactures. Although remington brings some cool stuff out every year too in there cdl line and used to in there classic line. I just wish ruger would take the cool gun theyve got and the cool chamberings and do some engineering or quality control work to get there accuracy up with rem sav and win. Nothing worse then getting a real neat gun in a chambering youve allways wanted and finding out its a 2moa plus shooter. Ive had more pour shooting rugers then all the other manufactures combined. If they came out with a guaranteed moa gun id probably buy no other!!