Rem. C-Bees .22LR

[gcrank1]

I had a chance to shoot these and compare to the CCI .22 CB Shorts and Longs this last weekend. We have a 'Boy's Rifle' match with standard 22Silhouettes at 50, 100, 150 & 200yd for LR using basically the BPCR rules. As a side match we move the chickens to 13.5, pigs at 25, turkeys to 37.5 and rams at 50. All are shot offhand with traditional 'boy's rifles, many of which are old weak actions, and open sights. To minimize wear on them and 'level' the playing field we use the CBs. It takes a hit on the rams above centerline, preferably in the top third, to topple them. If you think this might be easy, consider most of the shooters are pretty well accomplished offhand shots and nobody has cleaned the rails yet (4 banks of 5, total of 20) I tied for third with 14 and the winner was 18.
Now to the point, we have found the CCIs, usuallly good quality ammo, to be not so consistent in CBs, Short or Long. I would estimate that 20% of my shots had a softer phfttt, and the bullet drops low. This wasnt an issue up close on the chickens, and not too bad on the pigs, but at the turkeys and rams this resulted in shooting under the critter. I know they dont expect people to be using this ammo for matches, but we are! Its hard enough to shoot this match and do everything else well then have the ammo let you down.
I had picked up a box of the Rem C-Bees in LR to help fill the chamber better and avoid some of the 'spitbacks' we get from the low pressure rounds not really expanding to seal. It was then I noticed it has a truncated cone, 33gr. HP as opposed to the regular CB 29gr RN. This weight advantage precluded its use in the match, but I practiced with it a bit and found it to hit well and had no soft reports. It is a tad louder, even though the velo is rated at the similar 740fps. It is still quiet enough for garden work, I should think. I have done a 50yd. casual bench test and the Remmy's group much better than the CCI's.
I am going to lobby for this to be our match ammo and recommend it if you need something in this class of .22 ammunition.

[Drilling Man]

  I've been shootingh Rem. C Bee's for quite a while now, and i like them a lot.  They are a little hard to find around here though.

  I've found them to kill racoons much faster than any of the CCI CB's, as i think the Rem. is a MUCH better designed bullet.

  DM

[Blue Duck]

Thanks for the tip.  Ill give the remingtons a try. 

[SHOOTALL]

Garden work , yes ! I will try them thanks for up date.

[spooked]

Picked up a couple of boxes of the Cbee's back in the winter, fired one in one of my old single shot .22's and it stuck about 8" from the muzzle , shot the rest up in my short barreled 929....Will not buy any more of  them.

[gcrank1]

Thats a bummer!
With my experiences the CCIs would have even been more likely to do that. Is that a really long old barrelled 22?, was it a cleanish bore or maybe kind of fouled from years of? Still, a guy does want the projectile to come out the end; Id be leery too. We always pay attention to the report, etc. when shooting low pressure rounds for this very reason.

[cwlongshot]

I have found the CCIs to be better...  I do find the Rems hotter, but the CCI's are more accurate in my guns...  I have used the shorts, but by and large I only use the LONGS.
I have taken two "jobs" eradicating buildings of pigeons. My weapon of choice is a Contender with a Match22LR barrel and a box of CCI CB LONGS. Accuracy was tantamount as these guys dont like holes in the roof... Oh yea, I am hunting the INSIDE of the buildings.
 
 
Strange huh...
 
CW

[gcrank1]

If the consistency is there you've got a good lot; ours were dismal.
If ya got em, smoke em........

[spooked]

Thats a bummer!
With my experiences the CCIs would have even been more likely to do that. Is that a really long old barrelled 22?, was it a cleanish bore or maybe kind of fouled from years of? Still, a guy does want the projectile to come out the end; Id be leery too. We always pay attention to the report, etc. when shooting low pressure rounds for this very reason.

Long barrel, clean, very slick (smooth) bore..the  extra low report  was what made me look...Keep that bullet where I see it often to remind me to be careful of low powered loads..

[gcrank1]

At the 750-780fps of these rounds (either brand), they are the equiv. of low velo pistol loads. The longer the barrel the more chance of 'stick', so we are sticking to short barreled rifles to shoot CBs in.

[Drilling Man]

  Rem. Cbeeeee's have a LOT more power than CCI CB caps.  I don't think you would ever stick the Rem. round, it's fairly powerful compared to the CCI round.  (i've never stuck any brand in the numerous 22's i've shot any of them in)
 
  A few months ago i switched to shooting Agulia Super Colibri's, and i like them a LOT.  I bought two brick's of them (1,000) and have been shooting them mostly in my two Henry lever rifle.  They shoot pretty good in my Henrys.
 
  DM