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Offline geezerbiker

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Storing water
« on: October 13, 2011, 09:57:45 PM »
I hope this isn't off topic here...  Maybe I'm being nostalgic but lately I've been thinking a lot about living through the Columbus Day storm about 50 years ago and how long we were without services.

so I've been thinking a lot about emergency preparedness.  One of the things I'm weak on is water storage.  Years ago I saw a pump that was designed to go into 5 gallon water cooler bottles but I can't seem to find them anymore.  Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Tony

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Re: Storing water
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 09:15:28 AM »
  there is a sticky at the top of the survival forum that shows you how to build a water filter to process larger amounts of water. 
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 01:14:37 PM »
Don't forget about a simple syphen (piece of hollow flexible hose!).
 
As for that 'pump,' try looking at Emergency Essentials.com or similar preparedness outlets that have carried them.  The one's we got at more rigid than a syphen hose but work with the sames physics, once they're flowing..
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 01:19:49 PM »
I thought about a siphon but I'm concerned about backwash from sucking on the hose contaminating the rest of the bottle.  I was looking on the Costco site today and they have a 55 gallon water barrel with pump for under a C note and I may go that route since it's more water in one place...

Tony
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 05:09:53 PM »
Not about a pump, but several years ago we bought a bunch of gallon jugs of water for emergency use.  I stored them in the basement where the sun don't shine.  This year half of them or more have sprung leaks.  It can't be from UV light deterioration of the plastic.  It doesn't seem like a very safe way to have water on hand for SHTF situations.

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Re: Storing water
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 08:26:15 PM »
The 5 gallon jugs used for water coolers are made from a better plastic than common gallon milk jugs.  I plan to go with these because the water is already filtered and the jugs are supposed to be stable for 10+ years out of direct sunlight.

I'm not really thinking about SHTF but more like mother nature throws us a curve ball situation.  Western Oregon hasn't had a serious weather or natural disaster in a very long time and I my concern is we're do for something.

Tony
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 03:48:28 PM »
i have a few regular 5 gallon pails with watertight lids that i picked up from the local hardware store.   my building uses water softener, and when i drink the water from the faucet, i am still thristy.     i have a spring that bubbles out the the side of the hill near my house, and i go there and fill the 5 gallon pails with water and bring them home.   i keep water bottles in the fridge, and refill them straight out of the pail by submerging them in the buckets.  low tech, but it works just fine.   and the water tastes GREAT, too.   
   i see no reason why you cant use them for water storage straight out of the tap as well.  just make sure the pails are rated for food storage. 
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2011, 10:48:09 PM »
Try drinking water hand pump as a search and you should be able to find one online that has decent shipping. I think this is what you are talking about. www.edmwi.com/home/edm/page_109/home_drinking_water___hand_pump___fits_5_gallon.html?rid=base
As for water storage plastic 55 gallon drums work pretty good. The black ones are good for keeping light out so algae wont grow. They also make a syphon where you pump a bulb like priming a boat motor. And another that has a little slide on it to get the fluid moving. I never much liked a mouth full of gas. I think I found them at harbor freight.
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 02:15:31 AM »
I wouldn't pay 100 bucks for a 55 gal. barrel. Our local farm store sells used juice barrels for about $35.

 There are different ways to start a siphon than sucking on it. I would attach a good valve to a piece of good  tubing. Then fill the tubing with water and close the valve. Dip the open end in your barrel and open the valve. All the siphoning gadgets I have seen are made of pretty cheap stuff and may not be reliable when you need them.
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 07:30:53 AM »
Quote from: bilmac on October 17, 2011, 02:15:31 AM
I wouldn't pay 100 bucks for a 55 gal. barrel. Our local farm store sells used juice barrels for about $35.

 There are different ways to start a siphon than sucking on it. I would attach a good valve to a piece of good  tubing. Then fill the tubing with water and close the valve. Dip the open end in your barrel and open the valve. All the siphoning gadgets I have seen are made of pretty cheap stuff and may not be reliable when you need them.

 
Yep, like a "thumb" valve over the end of the hose. ear
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 08:36:54 AM »
a check valve on the end of a pipe dropped in the jug , barrel or well will work if the pipe is raised and lowered . Put an ell on the other end and enough pipe to keep it from falling in and out of reach. A hose can be connected to the pipe if needed.
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 06:18:35 PM »
I got my 55 gal barrels from the local Coca-Cola bottler. They have plastic drums they transport syrup in, and they can only use them once. I had to use several washings to get the pop smell out of them. I store a minimum of 3 filled at all times, using household bleach to purify the water. You can get the information for water purifying from Clorox' website.
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Re: Storing water
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 03:58:15 AM »
Quote from: anachronism on October 17, 2011, 06:18:35 PM
I got my 55 gal barrels from the local Coca-Cola bottler. They have plastic drums they transport syrup in, and they can only use them once. I had to use several washings to get the pop smell out of them. I store a minimum of 3 filled at all times, using household bleach to purify the water. You can get the information for water purifying from Clorox' website.

Hmmm.  A visit to the local Pepsi plant might be on the agenda.  Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Storing water
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 06:07:17 AM »
We used to be on creek water here. Our watersystem was;  creek water flowed into 500 gallon holding tank, then we pumped from there into a bladder tank to feed two homes. since we now have put in a well ,we pump into the tank, pump into the bladder then to home from there. At any time our power or freeze takes out the water, there is enough that I can dip from the tank to meet our needs until things are working again.  We still have the line from the creek so I can get water by the bucket from that. But have to boil or treat before drinking. I had to work on the pump house this summer so I added more insulation and am buying a new heater for it. We should be good to go.  Oh yeah there's another creek that In can dip from not too far away if everything freezes. redundency is a nice thing.
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