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125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« on: October 30, 2011, 08:08:06 AM »
just acquired 250 .357 125 gr soft nose jacketed hollow point bullets, they are not Hdy having no luck finding load data for them, shooting in a 6" security six, any ideas
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Re: 125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 09:17:41 AM »
I have often found something usable with MDSmith.  ;)
 
125 grain JHP or JSP (Jacketed Hollow or Soft Point)
    Bullseye   8.4 gr.   1,550 FPS (this is very hot) YES it is. Too Hot. I don't go over 6.5 personally. Graybeard.   
Unique     9.6 gr.   1,585 MAX (not recommended)
    2400      17.5 gr.   1,409 max
    Universal  7.1 gr.   1,394 start
    Universal  7.6 gr.   1,453 Max
    HS6        9.8 gr.   1,493 start
    HS6       10.0 gr.   1,542
    HS6       10.9 gr.   1,629 max 
    HP38/W231     7.0 gr.   1,267
    HP-38 & W231  7.3 gr. 1,335 start
    HP-38 & W231  8.5 gr. 1,514 max
    Titegroup  6.8 gr.   1,425 start
    Titegroup  7.5 gr.   1,497 max
    No. 2      8.2 gr.   1,312
    No. 5     10.1 gr.   1,322
    No. 5      9.6 gr.   1,273 start
    No. 5     10.6 gr.   1,446 max
    No. 7     10.9 gr.   1,278 start
    No. 7     12.0 gr.   1,236
    No. 7     12.1 gr.   1,453 max
    No. 9     14.1 gr.   1,370 start
    No. 9     15.6 gr.   1,567 max
    231        8.1 gr.   1,460
    H-4227    18.0 gr.    1,692 start
    H-4227    20.0 gr.    1,839 max
    W296*     18.5 gr.   1,800
* use magnum primers (standard is OK)
    W296      21.0 gr.   1,881
    W296      22.0 gr.   1,996 MAX
    Zip        7.1 gr.   1,276
    Zip        7.9 gr.   1,418 max
    True Blue  9.4 gr.   1,168 in Hornady JHP
    True Blue 10.4 gr.   1,226 is Max in Hornady JHP
    True Blue 11.3 gr.   1,262 +P for some bullets
    True Blue 11.5 gr.   1,472 max
    Enforcer  16.2 gr.   1,483
    Enforcer  17.0 gr.   1,567 +P max for some bullets

http://www.reloadammo.com/357loads.htm
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Re: 125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 09:42:13 AM »
thanks just what i was looking for
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Re: 125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 12:54:53 PM »
That W296 data looks like the old load data we used to load the 110/125 SuperVel bullets back in the day. Only we used H-110.  I'd approach those loads with caution----------------!
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Re: 125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 01:59:59 PM »
have H110 and titegroup thinking about using this in both 357 and 38 special loads
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Re: 125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 05:38:14 PM »
Personally I discourage getting your load data from such sources.

All of the major powder and bullet makers list data on their site. It is reasonably safe to use data for other bullets of same weight especially in the 125 grain weight class.

Data on MD's site isf NOT pressure tested and as such shouldn't be considered safe unless double checked with other sources that are pressure tested.


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Re: 125 grain soft nose JHP load data not hornandy
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 07:05:26 PM »
all other load data only shows hornady 125 xtp, they also say they are reduced charges because the xtp is a longer bullet, in the 357 the depth from nose to base between mine and the xtp is almost a .25 inch which definitely would cause a pressure difference. would i be getting the performance using a shorter bullet.
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