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Offline tony212

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Failure to fire
« on: October 29, 2011, 10:13:00 PM »
I know this has been posted before but all I could find was info on newer transfer bar guns.  I have an older, 70s vintage, h&r model 158, 30-30.  Yesterday I had 8 FTFs with ammo I had reloaded.  All had dented primers, Fed210, and its a load I have been loading for years.  Being an older gun with no transfer bar I didn't think trigger pull could be the problem.  Any ideas?
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 01:06:16 AM »
Being an older rifle, the first thing that comes to my mind is perhaps a tired spring.

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 04:25:01 AM »
Replace the hammer spring with a Wolff(FAQs) extra power spring(double coil probably) and R&R the firing pin and spring to clean it good, some dry lube cleaner like One Shot or Slide-All might help without removing it tho.

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 04:39:38 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I thought it was probably the hammer spring but its good to hear it from someone who knows more about these guns than I do.  :)
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 05:17:03 AM »
Also make sure your reloads have the primers seated well. I got a few FTF out of some 7x64 factory loads last week and you can see the ones that did fire seated the primers the rest of the way and fired. Kurt
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 10:18:59 AM »
My old 12ga sat too long, I guess and I had FTFs. I dropped the firing pin and cleaned it all out good, and replaced the strong factory return spring with a lighter one I had in my bins. My F-pin protrusion with hammer down was also a little on the shy side so I gave it a tad more (this requires filing, proceed with caution even if you think you know whats up).
I figured I had nothing to lose, so I jigged up the dbl leg spring and referenced its bend, then tweaked it for more tension.
Ive had no more FTF yet, and will, one day, get a new WOLFF spring (yes I will, I really will).
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 11:58:22 AM »
I agree, get the wolff spring and forget about it!
 
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 01:18:58 PM »
 The only time I've had this problem, it was caused by laziness on my part-simply not cleaning the primer pocket before loading.   What primers are you using? 
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 10:38:13 PM »
I'm using federal 210 primers, I always clean the pockets out.  I load ffor several calibers and guns and this is the only one I have had a FTF with.   we got hammered with snow this weekend so I can't get to the range again.  If it melts by next weekend I'll get back out and try again.
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