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Offline ted

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the deer laughed at me!
« on: November 10, 2011, 09:14:27 AM »
I have been a handgun hunter for 6 years. A friend lent me his compound bow 3 weeks ago to see if I would like it (It's  a pearson spoiler 70#). I praciticed for 2 weeks (4 times a week about 30 minutes each time) and got settings to 30 yards. Went to firends farm (I live in KY) earlier in week and saw doe and buck. Drew on the buck but, he never came closeer than 45 yards. Went back again this morning and saw 3 does. The third one came within 15 yards so I get ready to draw and..... I can't pull back the bow!!! Maybe because it's cold and due to me still being new to the game and getting use to things. I tried again and banged the bow againt the stand. The deer stopped and looked up at me while I am trying to grunt and pull back the bow! She just calmly went on her way as I realized I just missed my chance. Shortly thereafter I left. Went home and adjusted the cams so it is easier to pull and have resighted. Will hopefully get a chance again tomorrow. I am humble enought to say I feel like an idiot. Anyone have a similar experience?

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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 10:09:22 AM »
That's the fun of bowhunting.  You will figure it out after a while.  Everybody has "brain farts" bowhunting, or they haven't been bowhunting very long.  The deer probably wasn't laughing at you. Well, maybe a mild chuckle!

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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 02:34:41 PM »
That's why you want a TRADITIONAL bow.  Just a stick and string, none of those new-fangled wheels & cams and such!   ;)   You're too old to have training wheels anyway.   ::)   Get a longbow or recurve and enjoy simplicity once again!

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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 07:07:02 PM »
The minimum draw weight for deer is 40 lb which seems to be a very common rule and is sufficient for deer by a margin.. Why bust your shoulder with something like 70 lb?
 
 In my much younger years I had a Bear 55 lb recurve and that was plenty enough.
 
 BTW I'm sure there are a number of deer snickering behind me every year and I rifle hunt only.
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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 12:49:11 AM »
ted, I taught archery for years and have hunted with both recurve and compound bows for years and have seen a lot of folks with far heavier weight bows than they need.

The simple fact is that once you get to around 50 pounds of draw weight with most any bow and an appropriate arrow all extra draw weight does is make the arrow go further into the dirt on the other side of a deer.

I hunt with a 50# Bowtech Commander and Easton Axis Slim Tech carbon arrows mounting 100 grain Montec G5s.  It is set to draw 47#.  I've clipped shoulder blades with them and they continued on to pass though both lungs and out the other side.

Despite advertising claims, heavier draw weights don't result in much faster arrows.  The archery industry allows the use of much lighter spine arrows for speed testing than the bows can safely shoot.  If you look at the arrow spine weights used by most bow manufacturers for testing and then look at their literature or the sticker on the bow you will see that shooting that light of an arrow will void the warranty.   Most makers also don't mount fletching or points for their testing since industry standards don't require them.

As one moves up to heavier draw weights he needs stiffer (read heavier) arrows which won't travel as fast as the factory claims with lighter bare shafts.

Now for hunting:  One trick a lot of us use is to draw the bow every half hour or so to help keep our muscles a little looser.

BTW, one good tip is to pick a bow with a draw weight about 75% of what you can draw while standing up and loosened up.  In most hunting situations you will be stiff and either sitting or otherwise "out of position" so the lower weight will really help you to draw quietly and smoothly.

Bow hunters seem to be the segment of the hunting population that feels the need for the latest gee whiz equipment more than any other group.  High quality used or discontinued bows can be found in a lot of shops and, especially, online at sites such as Ebay at very attractive prices.  My Commander retailer close to $800 and I bought it new online a year after it was discontinued for less than $500.  Southpaws can get much better deals than righties, especially online.

Good luck.

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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 03:04:32 AM »
LanceR and All,
 Thanks for the advice! I did adjust the cams down and took it to a local archery shop who measured the draw at just over 50 #. I did draw bow occassionally too when up in the stand to make sure I stayed loose. I did discover that I was not extending my left hand out fully while up in my deer stand and that I had more clothing on too than when I praciticed and this affected my draw. Just more stuff I am learning as a newbie bow hunter!  Did go back out and saw 5 deer, including a nice 8 pointer. He stayed on edge of woods and never came closer than about 70 yards. Gun season starts and will be doing that this weekend. Will go back out and bow hunt again as I am reallly wanting to get one with the bow!

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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 03:19:14 AM »
longbows and recurves are beautiful things that look good on the wall too.
a compound looks like it belongs out in the shed with some kind of motor on it.
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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 04:57:55 AM »
+1 above
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Re: the deer laughed at me!
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 11:28:56 AM »
I use a 65# recurve and like the weight draw for heavier ash shafts and the fact that I can range out to about 70 yards max. with decent consistency.  With a 45# to 50# bow there's too much arch to get consistent at longer ranges imo.  I rarely shoot animals at that range, but did take one at one time at that distance.  I am a stalk hunter though and don't use tree stands or blinds and thus I mainly snap shoot.  ;)
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