Author Topic: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?  (Read 1123 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline shinjin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 215
  • Gender: Male
  • Robin Martin, retired LEO, CEO Public Safety Agenc
How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« on: November 28, 2011, 04:59:20 AM »
I am interested in a 308, 30-06 or 35 whelen barrel for my Handi-Rifle but I am spoiled by the mild recoil of my 38-55 and 223 barrels, so - before I jump how heavy is recoil in this light rifle wit the faster calibers?
 
None of those rounds bother me in a Rem 700 or Mauser 98 but they weigh more than my Handi, which incidentally is a treat to tote on a walking hunt.
 

Offline thejanitor

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (59)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1094
  • Gender: Male
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 05:35:59 AM »
I have a 30-06 handi and it is not bad at all with 125 gr bullets. I do not think I want to shoot 220s out of it, but with a wood stock I think I could go up to 150s or 165s without getting flinchy. The  30-06 we have is very accurate, and even though it is still an ejector it has very very rarely stuck a case. I don't think I would want to put all synthetics on a heavy kicker.
 Good luck finding what you want.  thejanitor

Offline petemi

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (73)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7386
  • Gender: Male
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 06:27:08 AM »
I have Handis in both .308 and .30-06.  I shoot and hunt with the .308 more than the '06, and it has a steady diet of 165 - 168 gr. boat tails.  I don't mind the recoil at all, and it is on a synthetic stock.  The '06 on a wood stock seems to kick more with a comparable load.  Of the two, I prefer the .308.  I've had a bolt action .308 for years and really like the caliber and what it can do.  When I got the Handi, it just about retired the bolt gun.  If you want some long range clout and light recoil, you may consider the 7mm-08.

Pete
Keep both eyes open and make the first shot good.
The growing Handi/Sportster/Pardner/Topper Family:  .22 WMR, .22-250. 223, Two Superlight 7mm-08s and one .243, .30-30,  .308, 32-20, 18 inch .356/.358 Win., Two 16.5 inch .357 Max., 18 inch 38-55 BC Carbine, 16.5 inch .445 Super Mag., .45LC, 16.5 and 22 inch .45-70s, .50 Huntsman SS, .410, 20 ga., 12 ga., 20 ga. Pardner Pump, Versa-Pack .410 - .22
[size=7.4 pt]PLEASE DONATE TO THE GBO SERVER FUND  We're closer to the goal but not there yet, we can still use more donations, thanks

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,191112.msg1098959491.html#msg1098959491

Offline shinjin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 215
  • Gender: Male
  • Robin Martin, retired LEO, CEO Public Safety Agenc
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 06:36:56 AM »
Are you saying the handi's recoil in 308 is about same as your bolt gun's? 
 
I find that 30-06's all seem to recoil hearder for me than the same rifles will in 308. Don't know why.
 
Recoil is subjective and I am not terribly bothered by it in most guns but on a dare I shot a .458 Win Mag that a gunsmith had reduced to a 7 pound rifle. Sweet Petunia but that was a ride!
 
I like the 7-08 idea and might could have it rechambered to 7x57 to use all that brass I have sitting about.

Offline watsisname

  • Trade Count: (56)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 353
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 06:46:17 AM »
I shoot a .280 and a 45-70. I have Pachmayr Decelarator recoil pads on both and they are a blast to shoot ;D . My advice to you is to invest in a good quality recoil pad.

Offline shinjin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 215
  • Gender: Male
  • Robin Martin, retired LEO, CEO Public Safety Agenc
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 11:51:07 AM »
So from what I read here a Handi rifle with a wood stock should be no worse than average.  Cool!
Now to find a barrel before those quick fingered buyers on the other list get it!

Offline hunterwinco

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Avid Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 162
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 12:32:59 PM »
I dont really consider handi's to be that light...synthetic stocks being the exception!  I certainly wish they were lighter.  I consider them quite heavy for what they are.  I wish that they would thin out that barrel profile some.  I think my scoped handis are basically the same weight as my Ruger 77.  I shoot my 4570 with "lever gun loads" with the hard factory recoil pad and dont find that painful at all.
22 hornet, 4570, 357 Max, 223, 3030, sidekick

Offline quickdtoo

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43300
  • Gender: Male
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 01:03:35 PM »
Welcome! There's not much difference in recoil between the 308 and 30-06 when comparing same weight bullets and rifles, about 2lbs which I doubt most people would notice, a good recoil pad upgrade like a Limbsaver or Decelarator would be wise for anyone that's recoil sensitive for either chambering.  ;)

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

I like the 7-08 idea and might could have it rechambered to 7x57 to use all that brass I have sitting about.

A 7mm-08 Handi can't be rechambered to 7x57, best you can do is 7x57 Ackley, the 7x57 won't clean up the 7mm-08 chamber without setting the barrel back which can't be done on a break barrel rifle unless the barrel is refaced, rechambered and refitted to the action and I'm not sure that would even work, a chamber cast would have to be made first to see if it would work.

Tim
"Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" -  Mark Twain

Offline parson48

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 253
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 01:03:35 PM »
I recently acquired a 308 Handi and I don't find the recoil to be too bad. I also have a 30-06 in another brand single shot that isn't too unpleasant to shoot. Although I must confess that I use a small "cheater" pad when shooting at the range.

Offline Default_Required

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 219
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 01:46:41 PM »
No where near a Rossi/Braztech single shots recoil ;)

Offline shinjin

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 215
  • Gender: Male
  • Robin Martin, retired LEO, CEO Public Safety Agenc
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 10:13:21 AM »
RATS about no 7-08 conversion to 7x57. There goes another dream shot to shreds by reality.
 
Thanks for input guys. Now I need to find me a barrel in 308 or 30-06.

Offline LaOtto222

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3828
  • Gender: Male
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 10:28:35 AM »
Get a 280 ... longer barrel = less recoil. It can be down loaded to 7-08 levels or up to darn near 7 Mag levels ;)


Good Luck and Good Shooting
Great men have vision and resolve to make dreams come true.

Offline Spanky

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (96)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4627
  • Gender: Male
  • USMC Semper Fidelis
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 12:53:40 PM »
Get a 280 ... longer barrel = less recoil. It can be down loaded to 7-08 levels or up to darn near 7 Mag levels ;)
Good Luck and Good Shooting

 
How does barrel length relate to recoil?
 
 
 
Spanky

Offline quickdtoo

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43300
  • Gender: Male
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 12:56:11 PM »
Get a 280 ... longer barrel = less recoil. It can be down loaded to 7-08 levels or up to darn near 7 Mag levels ;)
Good Luck and Good Shooting

 
How does barrel length relate to recoil?
 
 
 
Spanky

It weighs more, exactly why I haven't hunted with my 280 Improved!  ;D

Tim
"Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" -  Mark Twain

Offline Spanky

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (96)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4627
  • Gender: Male
  • USMC Semper Fidelis
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 01:03:28 PM »
Get a 280 ... longer barrel = less recoil. It can be down loaded to 7-08 levels or up to darn near 7 Mag levels ;)
Good Luck and Good Shooting

 
How does barrel length relate to recoil?
 
 
 
Spanky

It weighs more, exactly why I haven't hunted with my 280 Improved!  ;D

Tim

 
I hear ya on that one Tim. It's amazing how 7 or 8 pounds can get so heavy after lugging it around all day. ;D
 
 
 
Spanky

Offline OldSchoolRanger

  • Trade Count: (60)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2742
Re: How is Recoil in Handi Rifle faster calibers?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2011, 04:07:16 PM »
RATS about no 7-08 conversion to 7x57. There goes another dream shot to shreds by reality.
 
Thanks for input guys. Now I need to find me a barrel in 308 or 30-06.
You can get a 7x57Mauser barrel for a Handi, in one of two ways.  Keep watching the classifieds and pray that one pops up, and your quick enough.  Or you can do a stub job (or have your gunsmith, or one of the guys here could probably recommend someone to you that would be able to do it).
 
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts." - Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

When you allow a lie to go unchallenged, it becomes the truth.

My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.