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Cost of living in retirement?
« on: November 30, 2011, 04:20:59 AM »
I'm not that far from retirement, and I'm trying to get a sense for cost of living post retirement. When I subtract a mortgage and add health insurance payments and increased travel, I get a cost of living that's about what we spend now. Have you found that to be true? Here are some of the expenses I'm considering (below). We'll have our house paid off and our kids will be gone. If you've got any good ideas and tips on how to get maximum value for minimum cash flow, I'd appreciate it.
 
 
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 08:16:16 AM »
Improved economy begins at home. More labor, more freedom. Achieve no house pmt, Garden, part time job, little high milage auto, etc. I'm not even close but I am makeing that plan. A budget depends on your figures. That is all that you can use to plan with. Put all of your numbers together and go from there. ear
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 08:54:39 AM »
The main barrier to my retirement is the cost of health insurance and eventually long term care insurance. If it was not for those costs I could retire now at 56.
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 09:11:11 AM »
GuzziJohn:
 
Yep. That's the big one alright. It's basically a mortgage. Health care, taxes and insurance are the big ones.
 
 
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Thanks! Good ideas!

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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 10:05:29 AM »
The main barrier to my retirement is the cost of health insurance and eventually long term care insurance. If it was not for those costs I could retire now at 56.
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A biggie that is hard to get around. Calls for a retirement job that is taxable to get coverage. That keeps you from really being retired. My old family doctor said "If you keep working, you will live longer". Actuarial tables and personal observance seems to prove this true. ear
 
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 10:21:45 AM »
Quote from Ear:
"My old family doctor said "If you keep working, you will live longer". Actuarial tables and personal observance seems to prove this true. "


I agree. In my case I have a rural home and and I will never run out of things to do or be active with as long as my health holds out which is good at this time. The folk that retire to a recliner and TV are the ones that usually do not live long. This last summer when I had two months off from work I lost 10 pounds and was busy with my own stuff at least six hours a day or more on most days. Just because you retire should not mean that you quit living or you probably will quit living.
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 10:50:28 AM »
Keeping busy is the way to keep living all right. When I retired I was going to catch up on all the huntin and fishin I wanted to do. I started taking on "old house" projects and now I work longer hours than when I was working. I bought old houses that everyone thought was ready for the bulldozer and fixed them and lived in them for awhile. Good work if you can get it, you're your own boss.

Being retired scares the crap out of me though. Hyperinflation will make retirees paupers overnight. If you're working, when inflation hits if you're worth your salt your wages will raise. I'm on the old civil service retirement.  Cost of living adjustments were always a big selling point for that system. But old promises have a way of being forgotten however. We still get our COLA in theory, but for the last several years it was smaller than the amount our health insurance went up.

The government is deliberately causing inflation by printing the money the way they are. They think they can control inflation, and it is a way to get them out of their huge debt problem. History has shown that this never works though.

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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 04:20:36 AM »
I was lucky to have worked for a company that paid for my health insurance until Medicare kicked in, so that was not a problem.  I retired early, so my only income was from my pension.  However, we had a very nice bonus deal from the company that provided a very nice nest egg.  My wife and I both converted all of our 401K and other investments to IRA's. 
 
Initially, we learned to live on the pension alone and didn't rely on anything else.  When we both became eligible for SS, we elected to take the benefits starting at age 62.  My pension and our SS benefits allows us to live very comfortably.  I will admit, though, that for the past few years, we have augmented our income by using some of what our IRA's produce.
 
This is where is gets dicey; our investment adviser told us to start spending money.  I told him we are doing very well and didn't really want to just start blowing it.  With the economy and government being what it is, one can never know what is around the corner, so my theory is that as long as we're doing well, why not let it ride.  My wife is a little more into making "investments"; she's into gold (rings, bracelets, watches necklaces) and diamonds and all sorts of, other crap.  I think she's trying to catch up with my gun collection.  Who knows, maybe all of the stuff we've collected will be worth more than money the way things are going these days.
 
The really important thing is to take it a day at a time, stay as healthy as possible and enjoy it while you can.  Retiring early was the best thing I've ever done and the truth is that I cannot believe I ever had the time to work.  There is just so much to do besides work.
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 04:32:14 AM »
Get in one of the most agressive exercise programs available and stick to it. (Crossfit)
If you want to lower your retirement outlay end up there in good shape. If not, travel is almost out and the doctors will get every penny you make. When you are in good shape If you want or need to work you will be ready for any job out there.
I am trying to do now what I did not do then. I am finding it hard and a little late to the party. If I had kept my self in shape and eat the right foods I would enjoy retirement much more and it would be much cheaper.
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 05:27:28 AM »
I've found I need a bit more money because now I have more time to buy guns - not entirely a joke.  Be aware that they will ding your Social Security to pay for Medicare.


I was lucky because my job kept me pretty fit.  Now I do brisk walks (4 mph), bike riding and a little light weights.  Staying in shape is definitely the most important thing.

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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 07:37:20 AM »
Start preparing before you retire. Buy a couple hundred bucks worth of forever stamps. things you will always use like trash bags, paper products, etc. In short, stock your pantry and make costly house repairs while working, that new roof,paint job, etc.

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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 08:05:27 AM »
One of the absolute retirement killers is when a daughter or son comes home with kids from a divorce or what ever reason and you end up raising them. We love our kids and Grandkids and want watch them go hungry. The cost is enormous. Or have a son or daughter that want work and have to be supported.
I have worked with men that had to get a job just to keep their grandkids up after retirement. I also have family members in the same shape.
If you think this might be a situation you can find yourself in try to take action now to lessen the impact.

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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2011, 10:04:49 AM »
First I waited till retirement to have my second son.  Actually he was born in Febuary and I retired from the Air Force the following May.  He kept me busy for a few years.
 
Then I retired a second time in 2001 after heart by-pass.  Have been so busy since never figured out how I had time to work.  I am on the Game Board Advisory Commitee, Hunting and Trapping sub commitee.  Local Rebublican Party working group.
 
I am hunting and trapping constantly in January, Febuary and March.  Snowmachining in March.  Bearbaiting in April, May and June.
 
Yard work in July.
 
Caribou hunting in August.
 
Moose hunting in September.  Made a new resulution, I'm not going Moose hunting again, to much work.  Only hunting bears now in September and October.
 
November and December going to Florida.
 
Love being retired.  Too bad the wife won't retire and join the good life.
 
As for cost:  Made sure the house was paid for.  Medical is taken care of by VA for me and the wife.  So our cost are vehicles and utilities.  Two AF retirements, Tow VA disabilities, takes care of them.  Her Job gives her her mad money.  Prodeeds from trapping gets me my mad money for travel.
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Re: Cost of living in retirement?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2011, 10:33:24 AM »
In the past several years food has increased at least 25% and obummer froze social security the past 2 years. Now since theres an election coming up he has decided to toss out a meatless bome with a raise of just over 3%. Boy, not sure I'll handle that windfall.
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