The Smoking Penta-Gun

[kinslayer1965]

 
If the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed then explain the flight 77 casualties. Look commas just to make you happy.
 
 
 
        Flight 77  Paul W. Ambrose,  Yeneneh Betru,  Mary Jane Booth,  Bernard C. Brown, I,  CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired,  Suzanne M. Calley,  William E. Caswell,  David M. Charlebois,  Sarah M. Clark,  Asia S. Cottom,  James D. Debeuneure,  Rodney Dickens,  Eddie A. Dillard,  LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired,  Barbara G. Edwards,  Charles S. Falkenberg,  Dana Falkenberg,  Zoe Falkenberg,  J. Joseph Ferguson,  Darlene E. Flagg,  RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired,  1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired  Ian J. Gray,  Stanley R. Hall,  Michele M. Heidenberger,  Bryan C. Jack,  Steven D. Jacoby,  Ann C. Judge,  Chandler R. Keller,  Yvonne E. Kennedy,  Norma Cruz Khan,  Karen Ann Kincaid,  Dong Chul Lee,  Jennifer Lewis,  Kenneth E. Lewis,  Renee A. May,  Dora Marie Menchaca,  Christopher C. Newton,  Barbara K. Olson,  Ruben S. Ornedo,  Robert Penninger,  Robert R. Ploger III,  Zandra F. Ploger,  Lisa J. Raines,  Todd H. Reuben,  John P. Sammartino,  George W. Simmons,  Donald D. Simmons,  Mari-Rae Sopper,  Robert Speisman,  Norma Lang Steuerle,  Hilda E. Taylor,  Leonard E. Taylor,  Sandra D. Teague,  Leslie A. Whittington,  CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired,  Vicki Yancey,  Shuyin Yang,  Yuguag Zheng,

[Lost Farmboy]

If the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed then explain the flight 77 casualties. Look commas just to make you happy.
 
 
 
        Flight 77  Paul W. Ambrose,  Yeneneh Betru,  Mary Jane Booth,  Bernard C. Brown, I,  CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired,  Suzanne M. Calley,  William E. Caswell,  David M. Charlebois,  Sarah M. Clark,  Asia S. Cottom,  James D. Debeuneure,  Rodney Dickens,  Eddie A. Dillard,  LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired,  Barbara G. Edwards,  Charles S. Falkenberg,  Dana Falkenberg,  Zoe Falkenberg,  J. Joseph Ferguson,  Darlene E. Flagg,  RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired,  1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired  Ian J. Gray,  Stanley R. Hall,  Michele M. Heidenberger,  Bryan C. Jack,  Steven D. Jacoby,  Ann C. Judge,  Chandler R. Keller,  Yvonne E. Kennedy,  Norma Cruz Khan,  Karen Ann Kincaid,  Dong Chul Lee,  Jennifer Lewis,  Kenneth E. Lewis,  Renee A. May,  Dora Marie Menchaca,  Christopher C. Newton,  Barbara K. Olson,  Ruben S. Ornedo,  Robert Penninger,  Robert R. Ploger III,  Zandra F. Ploger,  Lisa J. Raines,  Todd H. Reuben,  John P. Sammartino,  George W. Simmons,  Donald D. Simmons,  Mari-Rae Sopper,  Robert Speisman,  Norma Lang Steuerle,  Hilda E. Taylor,  Leonard E. Taylor,  Sandra D. Teague,  Leslie A. Whittington,  CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired,  Vicki Yancey,  Shuyin Yang,  Yuguag Zheng,

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I'm glad you brought this up again as rthis could be one huge incredible smoking gun. . Last time you brought this up I had some post(s) missing. Anyway, in the interim I relocated from my files a commentary from a Truther regarding the passengers and anomalies, I believe it originates from bushstole04.com.  Here it is below, but be forewarned it may conatins some condescending language..
 
 
.....fyi.....TM7
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The 9-11 Passenger List Oddityby Vincent Sammartino
 
As everyone who is involved in exposing the 9-11 cover-up knows, nothing concerning 9-11 is as it seems. Whether it's the magic jet that our government told us crashed into the Pentagon, the obvious missing jet at Shanksville (Flight 93), the three perfect demolitions of the World Trade Center towers, or the fact that Arab hijackers are still alive and their supposed ring leader Osama bin Laden has the ability to change his facial features at will. Nothing, I repeat, nothing about the government/controlled media version of 9-11 makes any sense.

So, let's get one thing straight and out of the way right now. There are no such things as physical inconsistencies in the world we live in. We can always depend on the laws of physics to be consistent and unchanging. Coincidence is a self-contained human concept; and the real world - the atoms, molecules and planets that whiz around - don't care if you understand them. Likewise, they aren't concerned if their movement happens to favor you or not. I say this because, as Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani know (WING TV), this is the key to understanding what is real and what is contrived.

With that said, let me go back to sometime in February, 2004. At that time I had pretty much figured out that what had happened at the Pentagon and the WTC was a lie. I was still toying with the idea, though, that maybe (just maybe) our government had shot down Flight 93 in Shanksville in order to protect us from the real terrorists.

Then a few websites started to pop-up showing videos of what appeared to be a "pod" under Flight 175, along with an unexplained flash that happened just before the jet hit the To me, this was just as damning as the Pentagon and the WTC collapses. There is no good reason for us to be seeing what we saw if the official government story was true. Think about this point for a minute. If what we saw was just an anomaly, then there must be millions of photos/videos of 757s taking off and landing at airports all over the world that look JUST LIKE THAT! If anybody has any jet photo anomalies they would like to share with us, please send them to Victor and Lisa at WING TV so we can clear this stuff up.

Which brings me to Ellen Mariani: she’s the woman who lost her husband Louis on Flight 175 that crashed into the
 
 
Edit: Well, kinslayer, you'll have to wait on this one, the site won't allow me to post the entire article at this time...with the data.....TM7

 
I wonder how many days it will take to finish this post? I will be driving to Florida and going on a cruise ship in a few days. Haven't been on a cruise for over 10 years. Normally fly 20,000 to 30,000 miles a year, but the terrorist (TSA) have overthrown the constitution and taken over the airports. Too dangerous now. Was hoping to see the smoking gun before leaving.

[Lost Farmboy]

If the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed then explain the flight 77 casualties. Look commas just to make you happy.
 
 
 
        Flight 77  Paul W. Ambrose,  Yeneneh Betru,  Mary Jane Booth,  Bernard C. Brown, I,  CAPT Charles F. Burlingame III, USNR, Retired,  Suzanne M. Calley,  William E. Caswell,  David M. Charlebois,  Sarah M. Clark,  Asia S. Cottom,  James D. Debeuneure,  Rodney Dickens,  Eddie A. Dillard,  LCDR Charles A. Droz III, USN, Retired,  Barbara G. Edwards,  Charles S. Falkenberg,  Dana Falkenberg,  Zoe Falkenberg,  J. Joseph Ferguson,  Darlene E. Flagg,  RADM Wilson F. Flagg, USNR, Retired,  1stLt Richard P. Gabriel, USMC, Retired  Ian J. Gray,  Stanley R. Hall,  Michele M. Heidenberger,  Bryan C. Jack,  Steven D. Jacoby,  Ann C. Judge,  Chandler R. Keller,  Yvonne E. Kennedy,  Norma Cruz Khan,  Karen Ann Kincaid,  Dong Chul Lee,  Jennifer Lewis,  Kenneth E. Lewis,  Renee A. May,  Dora Marie Menchaca,  Christopher C. Newton,  Barbara K. Olson,  Ruben S. Ornedo,  Robert Penninger,  Robert R. Ploger III,  Zandra F. Ploger,  Lisa J. Raines,  Todd H. Reuben,  John P. Sammartino,  George W. Simmons,  Donald D. Simmons,  Mari-Rae Sopper,  Robert Speisman,  Norma Lang Steuerle,  Hilda E. Taylor,  Leonard E. Taylor,  Sandra D. Teague,  Leslie A. Whittington,  CAPT John D. Yamnicky, Sr., USN, Retired,  Vicki Yancey,  Shuyin Yang,  Yuguag Zheng,

 
I do not have the time to give your question a just answer now, but will give it a try. The comas really help make checking facts easier.


To me TM7's article only raises questions, it does not give answers. Sorry TM, I call em as I see em.

I believe there was a flight 77. I believe the passenger list is real. I believe the passengers died that day, how and when I do not know.


It is possible they walked down the jetway and got on a bus, never to be seen again. The first time this happened to me was in Paris. Walked down the jetway, got on a bus. I thought it was odd at the time, but got on the bus with everyone else. When it happened last year in Bangkok it seemed normal. The bus always took me to a plane. If it hadn't who would know the difference? Two pilots could then fly the plane empty to anywhere to dispose of it. Maybe even area 51.


A second scenario is more likely. This happened with the Christmas Day underwear bomber. The plane was forced to land somewhere else. Then a bus picked up the passengers and segregated them from passengers of other planes. Then they could have disappeared. There are many ways to dispose of unwanted witnesses. One thing we agree on. The people who committed this crime have no regard for human life.


A missing plane and missing passengers no way prove the plane hit the pentagon.


Many calls were reported form flight 93. Only one from flight 77. That one was from Barbara K. Olsen. Most of what we know of the hijackers from all four flights come from this call. The box cutters and methods of operation. According to the FBI these calls never happened. There were strange things with calls from other plans as well.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8514


Conclusion from above article

This rejection of Ted Olson’s story by American Airlines, the Pentagon, and especially the FBI is a development of utmost importance. Without the alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 returned to Washington. Also, if Ted Olson’s claim was false, then there are only two possibilities: Either he lied or he was duped by someone using voice-morphing technology to pretend to be his wife.¹⁷ In either case, the official story about the calls from Barbara Olson was based on deception. And if that part of the official account of 9/11 was based on deception, should we not suspect that other parts were as well?
      The fact that Ted Olson’s report has been contradicted by other defenders of the official story about 9/11 provides grounds for demanding a new investigation of 9/11. This internal contradiction is, moreover, only one of 25 such contradictions discussed in my most recent book, 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press.

[suba]

It is with a heavy heart that I shall not seek nor will I accept the nomination for another term as your president. At least that's how I remember it. Or was it the speech Nixon gave that said there are no american forces in Laos .....except at that very moment I was in Laos.


Truly many cannot see the forest for the trees. People don't want their world to be rocked. No one including me wants to believe that much of what we think we know is simply not so. The sad truth my fellow Americans is that much of what we think we know is simply not so. It's not your fault or mine. We've been deceived and conditioned. We've been played and used for the greater plan that lay ahead. For Gods sake open your minds and think for yourself. Truth and enlightenment is there....if only we have the courage to seek and see the truth.

[wncchester]

I have a retired Special Forces LTC friend who runs a "shop" on the third floor of the D ring, one section over from the affected section.  He didn't know what caused the hard THUMP and alarms at first.  After clearing his people and securing all safes he went into the hall to leave and immediately knew it had been an aircraft strike, the odor is quite distinctive.  After he got outside and corralled his civilians into one area for a head count he and several other ex-GIs headed back in to locate and retrieve survivors.  One of the uniformed security people told them to stop, they couldn't go inside; my friend assured him he was incorrect.  Inside they did find a few living souls and helped them to get out.  He saw plenty of shredded airplane debris, he was not confused.