Author Topic: I think this guy is on to something: .44 Auto (Read 827 times)

New Hampshire · « **on:** January 04, 2004, 06:14:38 AM »

I am a frequent poster on the Rugerforum.com. There is an interesting thread that started. I think this guy has a good idea. What do you think?

http://www.rugerforum.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004961.html

Weve had the .44 Mag and Special for a long time. With the advent of the .357 Sig why not have a .44 Auto for a medium frame?
Brian M.

Tc300mag1 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2004, 07:45:21 AM »

Sounds like a good ideal to me anther caliber to shoot but i dont see ruger doing it .. I dont see a 357 sig from them yet and they killed there 10 mm long ago ..Plus since the old man is gone i dont know what they will comeup with or if they will just ride what they got...

They did coem out with a new round a 204 ruger i think it is called but whats the point really

Savage · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2004, 09:13:58 AM »

Sounds like another solution to the proverbial "non problem". There is no magic in a couple thousands of an inch bullet dia. Not to mention there are .45ACP tatical and 10mm loads that already perform in this range. Spend your money on a 10mm or have your .45 given the "Super" treatment.
Savage

oso45-70 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2004, 06:13:26 PM »

TC3001
I read the same thing , but the idea of a 20 cal. varmit is by no means a new thing, its been around for while. there is some guy's in mon. &wo that have been playing with this and some more none std. cal.s for yrs.they make all their bullets. its people like them that open up ideas for all us to
enjoy. I can't wait for a 204 cal varmit rig. take care stay safe, JOE

rickyp · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2004, 03:36:02 AM »

sorry guys. there was already a 44 auto. it is know as the 44 auto-mag it is made by cutting down a 30-06/ 308 case to about 1.30 inches and them reaming to take a .429 bullet. this round was only used in the 44 auto mag pistol. and is not made any longer

this round could push a 240 gr bullet to around 1400 fps with energy of about 1045.
so it is right in between the 44 mag and the 454. this could be a fun round out of the encore

Savage · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2004, 03:44:56 AM »

Don't forget the 44AE. I didn't mention either one in my previous posts. The gentleman is proposing a shorter round that could be used in a mid size frame.
Savage

New Hampshire · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2004, 12:02:41 PM »

Actually, the idea is not to replecat the .44 mag, but the trusty old .44 special. He is going to try and fit it into 9mm/40 based framed guns. Basically he is taking the .45 GAP and reducing it to .44 caliber. I think it has potential.
Brian M.
P.S. I asked him about reducing the .44 auto mag case (which like stated is cut down .30-06/08 brass.) But he told me that when they get that short the case sapacity is too limited.

Mikey · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2004, 03:40:02 AM »

Yeah, they could probably do it but a question is basically how it would sell and would there be a market for it. Glock has reduced the length of the 45 acp round to the GAP (Guarranteed Almost Pissant) and I'm certain it won't be too much longer before someone necks that case down to hold a 43 caliber bullet (.429-.430) but the real question would be for demand.

I'm a wildcatter myself and love the idea of new 'stuff' that fills a niche where we need one filled but I don't think a 44 auto would do that. For that matter I don't think the 45 GAP will do that either. The 44 AE would be a good bet if it didn't have that rebated rim, especially if it could be used with just a barrel swap like the 40/357 Sig.

And, TC300, you're right, Ruger ain't gonna do it. They missed out on the 357 Sig and the 400 CorBon, falling into the same lack of foresight both S&W and Colt did 20 years ago when they were first offered the original design for the 400 CorBon case (but under another name). Sort of goes along with the 10 round magazine capacity limit Old Bill advocated. But, if they (Ruger) are conceptualizing on a 44 auto the length of a GAP case, it ought to be interesting to see what they come up with if it is of any real marketable interest to the shooting public at all.

This is, of course, just my dos centavos, which I have gladly thrown into the ring, and I remain (at least until after lunch) Mikey.

Dr64 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2004, 05:28:12 PM »

You are correct about the 44Automag (see Avatar). The ammo is still produced from time to time by Corbon, in limited runs, and you can have a Thompson Contender chambered for it, I know of at least one of these.

As for the 44AE, I think you might be confusing it with the 41AE.

But you might be on to something, there has been a small amount of short variations of rounds.

Maybe you should WILDCAT your round you could make a 44Super ShortAUTOMAG.

Zero

1911crazy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2004, 08:34:25 AM »

Send them a letter?? This was many years ago I sent Colt and Ruger letters back when the Smith & Wesson M29 in 44mag was hard to get and no one else made one. I asked Colt to make one like a larger frame python? Colt wrote me back and said no way they would ever make one in 44 mag.?? I asked Ruger to make one in stainless using a larger frame than the security six? Ruger said they had plans on making a 44mag double action but haven't got to it yet. Needless to say I own two redhawks in 44 mag. ever since they were first available. BigBill

Letters do work they do listen to their product users??? Of course then there is COLT dumb asses??