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I got it with a 1873 Springfield trapdoor, but it does not fit it. any ideas? Wallace in Georgia
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January 23, 2012, 10:39:44 AM »
Looks like the ones IMA-USA is selling for the Snider and early British Enfields.
http://www.ima-usa.com/british-p-1876-socket-bayonet.html
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January 23, 2012, 11:56:50 AM »
It is similiar but not the same. Thanks for the input, Wallacem
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January 23, 2012, 12:47:07 PM »
Wallace, I don't have a clue about the bayonet. Here's a link you can do some homework yourself
http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/bayonets.htm
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January 23, 2012, 02:21:05 PM »
I appreciate the link, I just went there and looked at every picture on it and no luck. It almost appears that my bayonet was shortened in the barrel but it does not look like it was cut anywhere. Wallacem
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January 23, 2012, 03:37:15 PM »
That's more like the ones from the revolutionary war era muskets I think. Looked a little but couldn't find the exact duplicate. Several close ones in the 1776 and years before.
Brown bess maybe: Here's best pic I've found:
http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?attachment_id=13890
One available at Cabela's:
http://www.cabelas.com/traditional-rifles-shotguns-brown-bess-musket-bayonet-1.shtml?WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleBaseUSA&WT.z_mc_id1=739870&rid=40&mr:trackingCode=94117452-F5D2-DF11-82EF-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA
Another Pic
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%2520full/uk%2520brown%2520bess%2520general.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D139152973%26page%3D97&h=580&w=800&sz=65&tbnid=8zyA0RObc-8SmM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=124&zoom=1&docid=m0CQ_WIDKcdBeM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OBseT77CGYqegwfQ8s2RDw&ved=0CFEQ9QEwBA&dur=237
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January 23, 2012, 04:39:03 PM »
My guess is English.
Not knowing the hole size but My guess is 3 band Enfield. The sight slot looks too large to be a brown bess. But there are many different models of the brown bess and some may have some models with a large front sight. The Spring field bayonett had a locking ring like the French 69 musket.
How long is it? Over all and blade. That may tell you.
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total length is 19", blade is 16". appears to have a "9" stamped on the blade, and there appears to be a "L" inside the socket, and notice, the blade sits on the left of the bbl, most I see sit on the right side. Wallacem
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All bayonetts for M-Loading guns HAD to be mounted so the blade is on the right side of the barrel so it would not be in the way while loading paper cartridges. Some bayonetts lugs were on top of the barrel and doubled as a front sight, like the Brown Bess musket. This Bayonette requires a lug on the UNDERSIDE of the barrel, like a French Charleville or 1795 Springfield, which will put it to the right also. This bayonett appears has no "bridge" over the slot so it is pretty early. I would "GUESS" that it may be for a Charlevillle OR an early 1795 Springfield. The Charleville bayonetts did not have a "bridge" and the 1795 bayonetts were made with a "bridge" beginning in 1808
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charleville_1866.jpg
http://jjmilitaryantiques.com/catpage.asp?CategoryType=sockbayous
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