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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2012, 06:47:07 AM »
I'm gonna load some of those today MSP Ret. Which dipper does it use?

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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2012, 07:01:04 AM »
Best powders for the .45-70 are IMR-4198 and Unique.  Best bullet is hardcast 405 grainer and the 340 hollow point Gould bullet.
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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2012, 12:27:53 PM »
All these responses and not one mention of my favorite 45-70 load, one I have loaded many times using a Lee Loader. 28.0 grains of 2400 behind a 350 Grain Hornady RNFP. Easy shooting, extremely accurate and very clean to shoot....<><.... :)


My personal feelings about such small amounts of fast burning powder in such a large case is to not use them.  I know hundreds if not thousands of those loads are fired every year, with no apparent ill effects.  I have also seen a few ringed barrels from such loads (three barrels were definately ringed from shooting light pistol powder loads with wadding, and jacketed bullets, a fourth is a mystery, but suspect pistol powder was used by mistake)



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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2012, 12:40:13 PM »
Wadding and over the powder wads will ring your chamber and should never be used.  They aren't needed.
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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2012, 02:19:17 PM »
I'll have to get to the cellar later and check the dipper that corresponds to 28.0 grains of 2400. I will let you know tonight. I have shot these loads for years with no problems. It burns much cleaner for me than 3031....<><....:)
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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2012, 03:14:48 PM »
Hello BKS, I have checked the following and verified by scale (weighing).
If you are using a jacketed 350 grain bullet (I use Hornady 350 Grain RNFP's and RN's, I think they make them in HP's as well) ahead of 2400 I have found info for a starting load of 2400 of 27.0 grains and a Max load of 29.0 grains (conservative IMO). I have settled on 28.0 grains with great results.
My newer 45-70 Lee Loader has a 3.1 cc scoop in it which is too large for 2400 powder. My older set of lee powder scoops indicate a #129 scoop at 28.5 grains of 2400 but for me on my equipment it is closer to an even 28.0 when weighed. I believe the #129 scoop corresponds to the newer marked scoop numbered 2.5 cc.
If your scoops are numbered in cc's check how much 2400 a 2.5cc scoop throws to verify it is advertised at 28.5 grains, if so, you are GTG.
 
Have fun and all the best....<><.... :)
 
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Re: 45-70 and Lee Loader, powder recommendations please
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2012, 04:26:05 PM »
Thank you sir for taking the time to reply.