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Offline woodsrunner

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16 ga.
« on: October 27, 2011, 01:00:40 PM »
 With some of you guys talking like the 16 ga. is the holy grail I'm suprised there is no action on the 16 in the classified section.
 
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 11:28:19 PM »
Maybe it's the price?  You can find the whole gun cheaper than that.
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 01:45:43 PM »
Markus just could be right, he usually is. I love my 16, it's one of the most accurate smoothbore slug barrels I have as well as a great "shot" gun. My 16 guage barrel is also a full choke, the same as the barrel offered in the classifieds. Now if the barrel offered for sale was a modified choke, perhaps a couple of inches shorter (but not neccessary), and a bit cheaper, I would be all over it. I do like the 16's, they are really great classic field guns.
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 03:36:58 PM »
Quote from: MSP Ret on October 28, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
Markus just could be right, he usually is. I love my 16, it's one of the most accurate smoothbore slug barrels I have as well as a great "shot" gun. My 16 guage barrel is also a full choke, the same as the barrel offered in the classifieds. Now if the barrel offered for sale was a modified choke, perhaps a couple of inches shorter (but not neccessary), and a bit cheaper, I would be all over it. I do like the 16's, they are really great classic field guns.
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MSP Ret - Maybe I'm too "Old School", but I was told to never shoot slugs out of a full choke, or for that matter out of any choke except a cylinder/improved cylinder.  Doesn't the slug squeezing thru a full choke cause excessive pressure, or bad accuracy, anyway that's what I've always been told and believed.  I'm always open to learning new tricks.
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 06:02:53 PM »
Modern "rifled" slugs also called Foster styled slugs are designed to fit through a full choke. Accuracy can often be quite good with full and mod choked guns.
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 04:56:13 AM »
those foster style remington and winchester slugs shoot just fine from the full chokes as do the brennekees but you get a little more thump from them as they are much harder than the other 2. Only reason I have not bought a 16ga H&R is I am in love with my Monkey Wards 5100 Hercules SXS. And my Tracker 20 for slugs.Kurt
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 02:48:53 PM »
Quote from: OldSchoolRanger on October 28, 2011, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: MSP Ret on October 28, 2011, 01:45:43 PM
Markus just could be right, he usually is. I love my 16, it's one of the most accurate smoothbore slug barrels I have as well as a great "shot" gun. My 16 guage barrel is also a full choke, the same as the barrel offered in the classifieds. Now if the barrel offered for sale was a modified choke, perhaps a couple of inches shorter (but not neccessary), and a bit cheaper, I would be all over it. I do like the 16's, they are really great classic field guns.
....<><.... :)
MSP Ret - Maybe I'm too "Old School", but I was told to never shoot slugs out of a full choke, or for that matter out of any choke except a cylinder/improved cylinder.  Doesn't the slug squeezing thru a full choke cause excessive pressure, or bad accuracy, anyway that's what I've always been told and believed.  I'm always open to learning new tricks.

As has been said the most of the newer "rifled" slugs are safe and shoot fine out of a full choked barrel. That tale (your right, it has been around a LONG time) started long ago with the solid round "pumpkin balls" that would not swage down well through a tightly choked barrel....<><.... :) 
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 04:06:52 PM »
Markus, PHATINJUN, MSP Ret - Thanks for setting me straight, otherwise, I would have believed it for the rest of my life, and probably spread that misinformation too. :P
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 04:36:15 PM »
I have a stevens single-shot 16 ga. 28" barrel, full choke. Killed many a deer with it. Got it for Christmas when I was 14 yrs. old, now I'm 58 yrs. old. I don't know what model it is. It has a dog on the side where it breaks open. I use rem. sluggers and it hits where the bead it pointed, dead on the money out to 50 yds. It hits a deer like someone getting hit like a baseball bat. ;) ;D
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 10:42:30 AM »
Quote from: snuffer#1 on November 12, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
I have a stevens single-shot 16 ga. 28" barrel, full choke. Killed many a deer with it. Got it for Christmas when I was 14 yrs. old, now I'm 58 yrs. old. I don't know what model it is. It has a dog on the side where it breaks open. I use rem. sluggers and it hits where the bead it pointed, dead on the money out to 50 yds. It hits a deer like someone getting hit like a baseball bat. ;) ;D

That's a Stevens M940A.  I've had the same gun since I was about 13 or 14 & I'm 64 now.  No telling how many Squirrels & Rabbits it has taken!
 
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011, 12:03:15 PM »
My brother has an old Iver Johnson single shot 20 gauge, full choke. He got it when he was a kid probably 40 years ago. He slug-hunted with it for years and the end of the barrel finally did get a split in it about 3/4 of an inch long. He had it cut-off behind the crack prob 20 years ago. It hasn't been hunted with for years. I can remember the hammer being so hard I had to use two thumbs to get it cocked when I was a kid. It did shoot pretty accurately with slugs though.
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 12:41:59 PM »
Quote from: digs68 on November 25, 2011, 12:03:15 PM
I can remember the hammer being so hard I had to use two thumbs to get it cocked when I was a kid.

I have a Stevens 94C .410 sold under the Sears "J. C. Higgins" logo.  I had to do the two thumbs thing myself when I was 8 or 10 (yeah Dad got me a shotgun early) and still have it and I'm 68 now.  Sweet little shotgun but these Partners sure are easier to cock.
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Re: 16 ga.
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 05:37:24 AM »
Quote from: woodsrunner on October 27, 2011, 01:00:40 PM
With some of you guys talking like the 16 ga. is the holy grail I'm suprised there is no action on the 16 in the classified section.
 
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Quote from: Markus on October 27, 2011, 11:28:19 PM
Maybe it's the price?  You can find the whole gun cheaper than that.
 
It's also the price of 16 Ga ammunition.  Sorry to say; Low demand = Higher price.
It's unfortunate that more people haven't discovered it's appeal, the 16Ga is such a sweet gauge, that's why their fondly called: Sweet 16's
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