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Offline Empty Quiver

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? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« on: February 02, 2012, 07:36:38 AM »
What are the reasons to consider a Stampede (or other Italian repro) over the Blackhawk?


It would seem the consensus is that the Rugers are a robust design and moderately priced. However I know there are those who think the Colt's knockoffs are preferable.


 What gives? I am admittedly ignorant and honestly can't see a nickles worth of difference between the two, save the hammer bar. I would use the thing for general dinking around likely not even hunt, but might if they prove more accurate in my hands than an auto.
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 08:25:26 AM »
For what it is worth here is my thoughts. Currently in SAs I have a 7.5" BH in .357 a an Uberti "El Patron" 5.5" in Colt .45 which is part of the "Cattleman" series but refined from the factory with case colored frame, sight channel widened and the front sight widened. It also comes with Wolf springs and a trigger and action job. I bought it a few months ago new for $500 which is what the Stampede was also going for. Both are very accurate. The Uberti is better timed and has a better trigger although the BH trigger is not bad by any means. I have smaller than average hands so the Uberti fits me better. The Uberti just feels better balanced and just has a better feel which I cannot really explain. The target picture is from the first five shots right out of the box with Mag-Tech 200 gr. rounds at 50'. Can't ask for much more than that. Either will serve you fine.
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 08:34:25 AM »
IMO, the cowboy action crowed, the purest amongst them at least, prefer the Colt clones due to tradition, authenticity,  'correct' feel and handling, etc.   

For the uses you describe a BH really fills the bill better.  It's of a modern design and materials that which can handle the hottest hunting loads with the added benefit of adjustable sites.

It boils down to what your game is, CAS or hunting live critters, and personal preference.
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 02:42:00 PM »
What Brett said!   ;D
 
I'm going squirrel hunting this weekend.  Along with my 22 rifle I'll carry my 45 Colt Uberti clone stoked with 250 gr. rnfp's I loaded to about 800 fps.
 
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 04:31:20 PM »
What are the reasons to consider a Stampede (or other Italian repro) over the Blackhawk?

Answer in my book = none.  Maybe if I had money to burn and just wanted one for show-n-tell.  I like and can only afford working guns and don't do CASS, so min'll be Blackhawk thankee..  ;)  I know some guys love'em, but they are just bling to me.
 
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 05:33:39 PM »
It depends on your definition on dinking around. I shoot my adjustable sighted revolvers at 50 yards routinely, people are shocked when i tell them this. I know guys who never shoot past 25 feet, and for that kind of shooting fixed sights are a lot of fun and work well. Im a fan of the saa for close shooting, the 4 clicks and half cocking are sorta fun like driving a manual transmision.

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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 12:28:57 AM »
if you want the look and balance of a colt or are doing cowboy reinactments you may be better served by a colt copy. If your buying a gun to hunt with or to shoot the snot out of a ruger is usually a stronger and  more durable gun and being american made alot easier to get repairs done or find replacement or aftermarket parts and accessorys for.
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 03:00:06 AM »
I routinely shoot my .45 cal. Blackhawks with handloads that propel 325 grain bullets at 1200 fps.  They are capable of good groups at 100 yards and will clang 12" gongs at that distance with every shot.






A foreign made revolver won't do that.


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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 09:16:41 PM »
Colts and clones are the pretty girls you want someone to see on your arm. Blackhawks are the girls you marry 'cuz they work hard and put up with most of your $#!+!
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 09:43:10 AM »
Short barreled BH, hands down!

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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 04:49:04 PM »
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If you want the best of both worlds consider a Ruger New Vaquero. They give almost the feel of a Colt SAA & you can carry 6 rounds safely. They won't take the heavy loads that say Ruger only, but will serve very well.
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Re: ? regarding BH vs traditional SA's
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 03:07:51 AM »
As the price has gone up on the Italian repros they have lost their appeal to me. Currently, around here, you can pick up a Ruger for about the same money (used), especially the bigger/more powerful calibers from those guys who thought they wanted the snot and dont reload. I agree that the new Vaq. size feels better to me, in balance and point, for a carry/fun gun.
For honest disclosure though, I need tell you that I have a NMBH .357 Ruger and an older Uberti made Millenium .45C (from the $200-$250 NIB days). Both work very well and will likely last beyond the rest of my life. I know I can take the Uberti to most 'cowboy' events and get by, the Ruger, no. If I had to take one into the wilderness not knowing when I would come out, it would be the Ruger.
BUT, for your stated purpose, I heartily recommend a 'cowboy' revolver in 22LR, hands down, aint no doubt, on my oath and mother's grave! You will have a blast, be able to shoot it a LOT and wont regret it.
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