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Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« on: January 30, 2012, 05:48:35 AM »
Hey guys, just wondering how many groundhog hunters visit this forum, and if any are from Ontario?  Curious to touch base with hunters who love hunting these as much as I do!  Curious as to what you use to take them (rifle, caliber, optics) how often you get out....what your season last year looked like, etc.

I've evolved rifle-wise.  Started hunting them with a .17HMR 3 years ago, moved-up to a .22WMR, then bought a .223 this past summer=ideal groundhog medicine.  Still use the .22WMR if the land is really flat, but most the places I hunt are not.

Look forward to  hearing from you!

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 06:40:48 AM »
Had no idea they were that far north. I used to hunt them hard using a 22-250 Encore 15" pistol. Lately don't see many unless they are really close to dwellings, Coyotes keep em thinned out in the open spaces.
My Dad, when working for the power co., had permission on a lot of river bottom farms and shot 248 one year, 17 in one afternoon and kept the tails to prove it.
There were enough around at one time that I hunted them with a bow and done well.

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 06:52:47 AM »
Mt first center fire groundhog gun was a 270 win. That was back in the 1960`s. If your looking for a good long range groundhog gun that don`t rickochet look to the 17 cal`s. The good old 17 Rem. is great. The new 17 Fireball is real good also, but if you want a wildcat the 17 AH ( Ackley Hornet) is king in my book. With a Contder carbine I`m pushing a 19 gr. Calhoon bullet at 3,600 fps. and shooting point blank to abt. 290 yrds. Not bad for only 10.4 grns. of powder.

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 08:28:20 AM »
Haven't groundhogs in 4 or 5 years... :-[  Just not in groundhog country at that time of year anymore...When I hunted them serious for about 10 years, my favorites were a .22 Hornet for close work,around bldgs. gardens, etc...next was my .222 Rem..a custom job and I am not sure what scope I had on it then probably a 12x...My long range out fit was a heavy barreled .22-250 with a 6.5 to 20 Leupold with dots from 200 thru 600 yards...my longest shot was with this at 424 yards..killed coyotes in the west much farther, but that was about the limit of  shot available in the country I hunted..sure miss it..but it seems like the 'chucks are in short supply these days...farms growing up, and more coyotes I suppose... :-[

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 10:36:43 AM »
Thanks for the replies guys.  Up here, it seems they're doing fairly well...but only in one part of the province.  I remember 15-20 years ago, we'd get them in our back yard 40 minutes north of Toronto~not a chance now.  Having said that, I did see one IN Toronto in the median beside the highway last summer....so maybe they're becoming an urban thing.  ;)

Seriously though, coyotes seem to get the blame for their overall decline up here..but I don't think anyone knows for sure.  Once a farm gets hunted a few times, these things get quite wary.  In the start of the season, you could get one off-hand from 50-75 yards away sometimes.  By the end, 125-175 yard shots at least.  The .223 was the logical move.

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 11:03:51 AM »
 ;) Let us know how the hunting goes...They are the "varmit" that started us down the road to so many fine rifles and bullets we have today..I would like to hunt them more, but just can't be in two places at once.... :-[

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 11:33:12 AM »
In my neck of the woods, its prairie dogs that we hunt. Very fun, very challengeing. 8)
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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 02:53:49 AM »
I sure didn't think there would be any ground hogs that far north, but I guess I haven't given it much thought.  Anyway welcome the GBO's.  I lost my huntin buddy in June of 2010 and haven't hunted much since then, but have decided to get back into it.  Jack and I hunted almost one day a week through the spring and summer months, and would be nothing to kill 50 to 75 ground hogs a season, that was an average.  The last year we hunted 2009 the kill was down, my guess was coyotes kept them thinned down.  Most of the time we hunted Jack shot a 223 AI built off a Winchester Mod 70 action and I hunted with a 722/222.  In the next few weeks I'm going to visit some of the farms we hunted and see if I can still hunt them.  I'm looking forward to get back out in a ground hog field but it won't be the same without my ol buddy Jack.
 
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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 09:51:24 AM »
Not groundhogs as per se, but I have hunted other marmots (rock chucks) all through the Rockies most of my life.   A different habitat than groundhogs usually, but there was a time when young that I spot and stalked them with just about any firearm from 22 rimfire's to 30-30's.   In those vintage days few people hunted them or went to the extra effort by hiking or on horseback up tall mountains to get in their habitat just for them, so they were more approachable.     I hunted them mostly near/above tree line in alpine and arctic habitats, my favorite habitats, but I imagine in some places groundhogs could be seen/shot about as far away as the RC's normally are in those lofty places.  I remember a couple of good spots in ID and NV where the habitat was closer to where GH's roam, but the shots were still long.   Hence, my RC firearms of choice became long range rigs more often than not (rifle and specialty handgun), and shot in windy conditions more often than not.   So flat shooting/fast bullets that will buck the wind and carry far dictated the firearms, and many of mine were wildcats.    However, I did have fairly good success as a young man before I got into the wildcats with 22 Varminter's, 220 Swifts, 243's, 270's, etc as well.   Just couldn't reach the longest shots with them.  While I also enjoyed a lifetime of hunting the smaller diggers in crop/CRP fields and meadows, the RC's were always my favorite diggers.    So I do miss going out for them, and being in there habitats.   My last hunt for them was about 2003 or 4 in Utah. 
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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 02:50:39 AM »
 
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I have hunted other marmots (rock chucks) all through the Rockies most of my life.

They (RCBS) must have been looking over your shoulder Ladobe as they then designed and released their Rock Chucker press  8)
 
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but it seems like the 'chucks are in short supply these days...farms growing up, and more coyotes I suppose... [img alt=:-[]http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif

Ditto on the farms growing up. While the Coyotes did not help anything, the habitat loss of the fence row to fence row tilling practices made things worse. I can still take some but have to cover a much larger area with the new Soybean fields being prime spots.
 
 
 

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 09:26:32 AM »

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I have hunted other marmots (rock chucks) all through the Rockies most of my life.

They (RCBS) must have been looking over your shoulder Ladobe as they then designed and released their Rock Chucker press  8)

Not possible Glanceblamm, they named the press/company after the rock chucks both before I was even born (I didn't start reloading until 1959).   I do still have my very early RCBS Rock "Crusher" press built much stouter way back then than the later models are (albeit heavy as sin).  Still as good as new despite the what must be 100's of thousands of rounds it loaded, all the bullets its swagged and all the wildcat brass its formed. ;)    Got it used so far back I don't even remember when, and I don't know how old it is.   But it could be as old as I am.   Wish I was as well preserved as it is.  ::)
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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 07:50:59 AM »
 I am an avid Ground Hog hunter, but just did not see any the few times i went out last year. I think the decline of them can be attributed to several factor, one being the influx of coyotes throughout the states. But I don't think they kill as many as are given credit for. I think plagues hit them periodically just as it hits Prarie(sp) dogs also, GH's also carry a form of Hepatitis that may also affect them, but one of the biggest reasons is with high heat, many go nocturnal. Here in VA. we have had very hot summers for the last two years. I don't blame them, I stayed inside alot also!
 My favorite groundhog killer is my 17HMR, it is the cats meow! I also use a 22lr, 223, 243. My longest kill was at 486yds measured, with the 243 and 246yds with the 17HMR (more luck than sense). My best year was 88 groundhogs in a sigle season, and most were killed with the 17HMR. I don't really know why I have killed so many more with that round, possibly because it is quieter than the others and doesn't disturb them as much, ie. they come back out quicker.

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Re: Groundhog hunters~any here? Better yet, any from Ontario?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 02:51:42 PM »
Qaz,
 
I've been thinking about your post and I agree with you, plague, coyotes and heat.  I will see more groundhogs in the early morning and late evening, than I do through the heat of the day.  Good post,
 
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