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AR in 7.62 x39?
« on: February 05, 2012, 11:32:36 AM »
This maybe on here already someone can direct me if it is. I bought one today that is supost to have the mods done to reliably shoot the surplus ammo(fireing pin, ejector,piston). It will be my coyote gun primarily but also hogs and deer. Just wondering what you guys are zeroing your guns at and what rounds your hunting with?
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 06:01:58 PM »
Mine is chambered in 5.56.  I have mine pretty well dialed in at 200.  I only coyote hunt with it, and most legitamate shots are under 200.  usually when calling they seem to post up on me around 100 to 150, so thats where I hit 'em...I use Wolf brand ammo that comes in the black boxes.  Non corrosive, steel cased JHP's.  They are pretty decent quality for the price and dont have all that lacquer that other brands of steel case ammo have on them.  In my stock AR, they shoot just under MOA.  Hopefully someone who shoots 7.62x39 through theirs can give you more info.

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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 06:53:21 PM »
make sure you get some C-Products magazines, they are the most reliable and have longer feed lips and follower needed to make the 7.62 round feed and run reliably, For hunting i use the white box Winchester sp rounds, they are the most accurate in my rifle and any of the wolf, or other russian rounds for plinking or just popping some caps....if you reload, use barnes 125 TSX bullets for the 7.62 x 39 cartridge for hunting, they work great, have a great day...JimP.

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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 01:29:24 AM »
Ill go one step higher then JIm. Buy those c products mags and then go to wolfs site and buy extra power ak47 mag springs and replace your mag springs with those. It cures most of the mag problems with the guns. I shoot about anything out of mine. I shoot wolf at camp when i dont want to pick up brass. I have shot lots of handloaded ball to save a few bucks. When im looking to do serious work with it i have a load with hornady vmaxs that shoots under an inch at a 100 yards. Ball or wolf usually will put 5 into around 2 inch which is still plenty accurate for most ar work. I consider it a mid range round so i pretty much zero mine to be right on at a 100 yards. Still makes for minute of man at 200 and minute of deer at 150 which is about as far as id consider a shot at one with that round. By the way my gun is a bushmaster and with good mags set up like i said it doesnt miss a beat with any ammo.
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 05:01:16 AM »
Thanks for the advise guys. This is my first treck into AR land. Where is the best place to get the c products mags at? What barrel length are y'all shooting? Mine has a 16".

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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 06:35:09 AM »
Sometimes you have to watch and make sure that the Wolf brand ammo will cycle reliably in an AR.  If you have too heavy of a buffer installed the Wolf can cause it to short stroke.
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 02:06:02 AM »
mines a 16 inch a4
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 12:07:53 PM »
Check out what Rock River Arms revealed at the 2012 SHOT show.
It's an AR/AK, it has an AR upper and the lower is designed to use AK mags. The model is LAR-47, google it and see what you think, I personally like the idea.
 
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 12:16:45 AM »
Check out what Rock River Arms revealed at the 2012 SHOT show.
It's an AR/AK, it has an AR upper and the lower is designed to use AK mags. The model is LAR-47, google it and see what you think, I personally like the idea.
 
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I've personally never understood the need for a 7.62x39 in an AR platform.  Accuracy maybe?  The actual AK platform is about the same price for a nice one and more reliable for the intended cartridge.
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 12:33:59 AM »
alot more accurate, lighter, gives a guy with multiple ars the option of parts swapping if something breaks, faster mag changes. Much more accurate, made in america, did i say much more accurate :P To me its about the ideal ar. HIts much harder at ranges combat actually happens at then a .223. Is within spitting distance of the balllistics of all the cult followed 6.5 and 6.8 ars for deer hunting and long range shooting. Ammo is much cheaper then any of them with the possible exception of the .223 and even then its a toss up. A guy can shoot quality reloads and have a moa gun or shoot wolf and still shoot 2moa (at least mine does) which is probably twice as accurate as any ak will shoot. Scope and optic mounting is much easier. there are vastly more options for add ons for an ar to make it fit the exact purpose you want to use it for. Caliber swaps are as easy as popping two pins. With a couple uppers you can swap in seconds from your battle/hunting 762x39 to a .223 heavy barrel varmit slayer or a truck busting 50 beowolf. Cant do that with your ak. Dont me wrong if i had to actually go into the jungle at war with a true full auto battle rifle id probably pice the ak. But i dont and for 99 percent of what i do with a black gun the ar is clearly a better choise.
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 02:45:59 AM »
Check out what Rock River Arms revealed at the 2012 SHOT show.
It's an AR/AK, it has an AR upper and the lower is designed to use AK mags. The model is LAR-47, google it and see what you think, I personally like the idea.
 
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That is awesome news...thank you for posting this.  8)
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 07:16:30 PM »
That rock river is pretty cool! I need 5 round mags to hunt here in Oklahoma. I have found them at midway USA but they are out of stock. Looks like its going to be 10 rounders with a plug or block or something to reduce capacity.

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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 12:33:08 AM »
those lowers have been available for a while on the aftermarket. Someone at rock river must have bought out the rights to them. from what i hear they work real well.
Check out what Rock River Arms revealed at the 2012 SHOT show.
It's an AR/AK, it has an AR upper and the lower is designed to use AK mags. The model is LAR-47, google it and see what you think, I personally like the idea.
 
GOOD SHOOTING!
Slufoot
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 10:03:54 AM »
Im interested in this caliber in a upper also. I have a sks but would like to have one in a ar better handling and optics choices. Not sure where to get the mags, barrel and bolt at. I would have to agree the round hits harder than the 223. Gun junky

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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 03:44:08 PM »
You're welcome Rock Home Isle, I can't wait to hear some actual reviews of this gun. I may just have to break down and try one for myself.
 
GOOD SHOOTING!
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Check out what Rock River Arms revealed at the 2012 SHOT show.
It's an AR/AK, it has an AR upper and the lower is designed to use AK mags. The model is LAR-47, google it and see what you think, I personally like the idea.
 
GOOD SHOOTING!
Slufoot

That is awesome news...thank you for posting this.  8)

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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2012, 03:43:41 PM »
Seems to me like going to a dedicated lower defeats the platform's modular design. Buy a milspec lower and pop any upper with the appropriate mag and call it day.
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2012, 11:37:08 PM »
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Seems to me like going to a dedicated lower defeats the platform's modular design. Buy a milspec lower and pop any upper with the appropriate mag and call it day.

The reason a lot of guys don't like using dedicated lowers is because sometimes to make a gun shoot lighter or make it more reliable over time they will use different buffers.  To swap out buffers everytime you swap an upper really defeats the purpose of having a dedicated lower.
 
Also when you get into different caliber designations other than the 5.56, you really have a hard time finding reliable magazines.  And when you do find a reliable mag for an odd caliber for the AR they cost double or triple the price of a 5.56 mag.
 
 
 
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 01:17:26 AM »
I never was one to swap uppers around anyway. If i want a differnt caliber i build a complete gun. You can put together a complete lower for around 250 bucks. For that its not worth swapping them around and if shtf ever did come what good is an upper? If i did though i sure wouldnt worry about swapping a buffer. For one i have 223 762x39 and 50 beo ars and they all use the stock buffer and spring and run fine and if for some reason i had to change one its about a 10 second job. As long as the dedicated lowers take standard ar parts kits id be fine with it.
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Re: AR in 7.62 x39?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 01:27:23 AM »
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I never was one to swap uppers around anyway. If i want a differnt caliber i build a complete gun. You can put together a complete lower for around 250 bucks. For that its not worth swapping them around and if shtf ever did come what good is an upper?

My thoughts exactly.
 
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If i did though i sure wouldnt worry about swapping a buffer. For one i have 223 762x39 and 50 beo ars and they all use the stock buffer and spring and run fine and if for some reason i had to change one its about a 10 second job. As long as the dedicated lowers take standard ar parts kits id be fine with it.

Lol, I didn't say they wouldn't function.  They just wont function as reliably.  But that's also considering your building a true milspec gun that has proper staking.  If it's just a plinker then the buffer and dedicated lower is a non issue.
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