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Judge weighs PETA whale slavery lawsuit Photo of  Written by SAN DIEGO — A federal judge appeared skeptical Monday of arguments that the killer whales that perform at SeaWorld are being held as slaves and that their confinement violates the constitutional ban on slavery.  After an hour of arguments, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Miller said he would take the case under advisement and issue a ruling later on the lawsuit.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals filed the suit in October in federal court in San Diego. It is the first of its kind to contend that an animal — in this case, wild-caught orcas — are entitled to protection under the U.S. Constitution.
PETA’s lawyer, Jeff Kerr, said after Monday’s hearing that it was a “historic day,” marking the first time a court considered the question of whether animals can be enslaved.
But SeaWorld’s lawyers said the case should be thrown out because it has no merit.
“There are boundaries to legitimate constitutional debate,” said Theodore Shaw, a lawyer for the amusement park that has venues in San Diego, Orlando, Fla., and San Antonio. “And PETA’s complaint has crossed those boundaries.”
Shaw contended that no court has ever recognized animals have the legal right — a concept known as standing — to sue. On that basis alone, he said, the case should be dismissed.
He called the suit “utterly lacking in legal merit,” adding that the 13th Amendment banning slavery referred to “persons,” and not animals.
A ruling that would say animals are protected by the 13th Amendment would create havoc, Shaw said. Pets, dogs used to assist the disabled and even canines used for security could conceivably be covered, he said.
PETA’s lawyer said such arguments were hysterical. Kerr said the suit seeks only to cover the killer whales at Sea World.
Judge Miller closely questioned Kerr about whether any court has recognized the standing of animals to bring a suit. He also asked several pointed questions about the history of the 13th Amendment, and how it was intended to apply only to humans held in slavery when it was adopted in 1865.
Kerr acknowledged no court has said animals have the right to sue but argued the same was true in the past for other groups, such as African-Americans and women. They also were denied standing until the courts eventually recognized their right to sue, he said.
While Shaw argued a bewildering variety of claims could be filed if animals are protected by the Constitution, Kerr tried to convince the judge the lawsuit was narrowly drawn.
It applies only to the unique circumstances of orcas, Kerr said. But Miller pressed him on whether other animals — such as whales used in medical research or animals used by the military — would also be covered.
Kerr said that the suit would apply only to the whales “held for amusement” in the SeaWorld parks.
The lawsuit was filed on behalf of five whales, three of which are based at the San Diego park and the others at the Orlando park.
In a statement after the hearing, SeaWorld said PETA was engaged in a “publicity stunt” and that the suit was “baseless and in many ways offensive.”
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 06:06:04 PM »
I always admire PETA. What a great idea for a money making enterprise. They are brilliant at fund raising. They accomplish nothing and are accountable no no one. The people who are inclined to give them money are gullible bleeding hearts with deep pockets. They are totally unashamed of the preposterous drivel they communicate, and they are well practiced at delivering those messages with a straight face and a non-threatening demeanor. Brilliant!

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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 08:56:30 PM »
They are the ones that sued Disney over the draft horses that pulled the street cars on Main Street USA at Disney World.  No more Street Cars, no more Draft Horses.  I miss the horses.

And when they win their suites, their lawyers get reimbursed, at inflated prices.  Big money for them. 
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 01:54:21 PM »
I saw on the news tonight that the judge threw the case out of court. These morons seem well funded. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 09:23:19 PM »
Next peta will probably try to get Coyote and Roadrunner cartoons taken off of TV because the poor Coyote always gets the short end of the stick. pita is a pain in the bottom.
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 01:37:51 AM »
Not always-avatar.lol

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 02:38:43 AM »
my favorite is foghorn leghorn and that dog and little chicken hawk.

peta and hsus are nothing more than legalized robbery. kinda like the government.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 02:47:30 AM »
Trust me,,,,That whale is a lot safer in that tank than in the ocean!
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 05:38:40 AM »
I reckon the PITA folks would want all seeing eye dogs released too?? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 05:50:16 AM »
I reckon the PITA folks would want all seeing eye dogs released too?? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
yes.  they are against any use of animals.
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 05:55:28 AM »
I wonder what the odds would be that if they gave a whale it's freedom how long it would be before it attacked someone? 

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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 08:15:06 AM »
I wonder what the odds would be that if they gave a whale it's freedom how long it would be before it attacked someone?

Attacked someone that belongs to peta?
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Re: peta says killer whale performers at seaworld are slaves, files suit.
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 08:19:23 AM »
Do the research on PETA. It will shock you the number of animals they have killed themselves! They are some of the worse hypocrits on the face of this Earth. They actually enjoy killining animals while pretending it was for their own good. Not talking about killing an animal for food. They kill domestic animals, such as cats and dogs, by the hundreds if not thousands to keep them from the horible fate of being someone's pet. Personaly, I think they kill them simply because they enjoy doing so! They are nothing less than domestic terrorists!