.17 High Standard: New caliber or is it a .17HMR?

[Moonpi]

Brownell's sent me a new product list and this barrel was listed.
Is it a new caliber or is it a .17HMR?
It says for a 10/22 so I'm assuming it's for a standard 22LR reciever.
Comments please.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=17607

[KN]

It's not a 17HMR. Some one jumped on the 17 band wagon and came up with a 22lr necked down to 17. Called it the 17 high standard. I believe thats because High standard was the one chambering this. I wouldn't waste any money on it. Can't see where it will do any thing a 22lr wont. From the very small reception I'm seeing it wont be around long.  KN

[jh45gun]

Another name is the 17 Aquila as they are making the ammo and may have came up with the idea in the first place. I can see the 17 HMR even though I am not a fan as is faster and flatter shooting than the 22 mag. but this cartridge will not do better than the 22 mag as far speed goes and of course less powerful so I feel who needs it as the 17 hmr or the 22 LR or mag covers most anything but I am sure some will buy it and try it. Jim

[JohnClif]

I think that the .17 HS will be popular also, and I'll buy one.

One of the biggest complaints from the BR50 crowd was that the design of the .22 LR round (crimped case-diameter bullet) limited the inherent accuracy of the round.  That the .22 LR shoots as well as it does is a triumph of quality control.

The new .17 HS cartridge will have all of the benefits of the .17 HMR, namely a bottleneck cartridge and a bullet that is smaller than the outer diameter of the case neck.   It will also benefit from the fact that any rifle that is currently manufactured for .22 LR can be made in this caliber merely by switching barrels.

An accurate .22 LR rifle has a hard time consistently grouping under .6 MOA at 50 yards... some groups will be under and some groups will be over, and there will be the occasional flyer.  The new .17 HS should readily group under .5 MOA and the groups should be a lot more consistent because the ammo will be a lot more consistent.

So... a round that will be more inherently accurate than a .22 LR, be priced reasonably, will work in any existing rifle with a barrel change, has a much flatter trajectory out to 100 yards, and it won't tear up game any more than a .22 LR HP... what's not to like?

This will be the ideal small game hunting cartridge, and if the price is under $5 for 100 rounds initially it will take off.  As volume (and competition) increases, the ammo price will drop further.

[MSP Ret]

At first reading this thread I did not think much of the .17/22LR round. I have my .17 HMR H&R Sportster that shoots as well as the Anshutz 1717D I shot against it at the range. There was a large discrepency in price in that duo, a multiple of 10 when the optics were figured in, my Simmons 6.5-20x50 vs. the Anshutz's Unertel. In addition I also have my new H&R Sportster .22 Mag with Micro-groove barrel I am setting for a close range coyote/varmit gun. However when the barrel swap idea was mentioned it all came into focus, a new .17 barrel for my Ruger 10/22. I can't wait until the barrels are first made available, sounds like a fun round. Now if they are really willing to keep the cost of ammo under $5.00 per 100....<><.... :grin: