FYI... the .17 High Standard round was designed 40+ years ago by personnel in the 'glorydays' of the old High Standard company in Connecticut, long before anyone made any mention of the .17HRM. the new High Standard company of Houston is heavily beset with controversy and trying everything imaginable to get connected with the 'glorydays' of the old company. the ammunition has been contracted from an ammo company in Mexico, which offers yet another set of problems; not the least of which are quality, consistency, distribution... potential is tremendous, but i dont want a higher than necessary cost for less than acceptable shootin piece. just thinkin out loud-