Author Topic: Which powder measure?  (Read 866 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline YRUpunting?

  • Trade Count: (24)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1013
Which powder measure?
« on: March 23, 2012, 03:16:08 PM »

I've been using the Lee dippers for a couple months to get started.  A very early spring has hit Indiana so more good shooting days coming.  I've read good reviews on the Lyman 55 and the Redding 3.  I'm currently loading for a Handi in 38 spl, 357 mag and max, and 44 mag.  What do you recommend?

Offline Graybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (69)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26946
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 05:35:50 PM »
I have two RCBS Uniflow measures in use in addition to my Hornady dispenser/scale combo. I tried a Hornady powder measure and liked it for awhile then lost interest in it and sold it.

I've never cared for the Lyman measure. I'm very pleased with mine from RCBS and wouldn't mind having another but can get by nicely with the set up I have now.


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises
256-435-1125

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life anyone who believes in Him will have everlasting life!

Offline jager

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 287
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 06:04:54 PM »
I've got a RCBS, Lee "Perfect", and an old B & L measure. Of the 3, the RCBS is the most versatile; it works well with just about any powder. I also like the RCBS's quality; for they can stand up to long term use without needing maintenance. I was really displeased with the Lee measure's consistency until I tried it with "ball" powder and it demonstrated it could be "accurate". I just don't have much trust in its use with different types of powders, and it is mostly made of nylon "stock" and plastics. The B & L is my favorite measure for "slow, stick" powders like H4831, but it is an antique that is slower to use than the rest. I've not tried any of the other brands mentioned and would probably not look beyond RCBS if I were to buy another.

Offline Ranch13

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1062
  • Gender: Male
    • Historic Shooting .com
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 06:24:57 PM »
I like my lee perfect measure better than either the lyman 55 or the rcbs uniflow.
My favorite "measure" is the Lyman 1200 dps, it throws exactly how much powder you tell it to, is easy to go from one powder to the other, plus being able to store each round and it's powder charge in the memory is really helpful
In the 1920's "sheeple" was a term coined by the National Socialist Party in Germany to describe people that would not vote for Hitler. In the 1930's they held Hitler as the only one that would bring pride back to Germany and bring the budget and economy back.....

Offline .22-5-40

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 253
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2012, 07:08:06 PM »
Hello, YRU..Since all your ctgs. are handgun..If it were me, I would spring for the Redding 10X pistol measure..Santa brought me one two years ago, and I love it!

Offline huntducks

  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 337
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2012, 07:41:50 PM »
I have a pair of Redding, but have had the RCBS they both work great but you have to pay extra for the mike dial on the RCBS.
Remember it's where the first bullet goes out of a cold barrel that counts most.

Offline Savage

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4397
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 01:14:37 AM »
I have a couple of the Uniflow measures, and a Lee Perfect. They both work as intended.  The Lee works better with extruded powders than the RCBS ones. I find myself using the Lee more often than the others. I use mine for rifle loading only, my handgun rounds are loaded progressively. Not sure how these measures work with small volume charges.
Savage
An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last,

Offline wncchester

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3856
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 01:33:45 AM »
"I have a couple of the Uniflow measures, and a Lee Perfect. They both work as intended."
 
Add the Reddings, Hornady and Lyman and that says it all, they all work as intended.  I believe the reason there is so much brand loyalty is simply personal predijice in small things that suit different people's taste because no one makes a 'bad' measure and none of them are worth much if the user is erratic in operation method.
Common sense is an uncommon virtue

Offline Bigeasy

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1986
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 03:26:41 AM »
For non progressive loading of hand gun rounds, I like the RCBS Little Dandy powder measure that uses pre drilled charge cylinders that throw a set charge of various popular handgun powders via a load chart.  Best used for when you settle on a particular load or two for the cartridge in question.
 
Larry
Personal opinion is a good thing, and everyone is entitled to one.  The hard part is separating informed opinion from someone who is just blowing hot air....

Offline Rock Home Isle

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 902
  • This is Rock Home Isle
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 04:17:12 AM »
I have two RCBS Uniflow Powder Measures. One for rifle, the other for pistol...Very well made product.  8)
“Lost?? Hmmm... been fearsome confused for a month or two, but I ain't never been lost!”
Henry Frap the "Mountain Men"

“Ain't this somethin'? I told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Mother Gue said to me; ‘Make your life go here, son. Here's where the people is. Them mountains is for Indians and wild men.’  "Mother Gue", I says "the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world," and by God, I was right. Keep your nose in the wind and your eye along the skyline.”
Del Gue in "Jeremiah Johnson"

Offline Dave in WV

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2162
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2012, 05:49:50 AM »
I bought the Redding 3BR measure and got both metering chamber (pistol & rifle). I went from Lee dippers to the Redding powder measure.
Setting an example is not the main means of influencing others; it is the only means
--Albert Einstein

Offline charles p

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2374
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2012, 07:06:58 AM »
I hate to think of the loading errors I could make with two powder measures mounted side by side.
I have an old RCBS.  I wish I could quickly adjust it for a desired weight, without so much trial and error.  Maybe I should write down the settings in my manuals.  It would be sweet if they published a table of powders, charge weights, and volume settings.

Offline mbopp

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 209
  • Gender: Male
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2012, 08:12:50 AM »
I have an older Redding 3 (not BR) with both micrometer sizes. No complaints. I added a home made baffle and even with powders like Unique it's very consistent.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." -- Patrick Henry, American Patriot

Offline cybin

  • Trade Count: (25)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 399
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2012, 03:37:48 PM »
I have used the Rcbs uniflow for many years now and really like it--before that I tried the Lyman #55--in my  opinion its a POS--others seem to like it--so I figured that maybe I just had a bad one---no way--since then I have been involved with 2 more of them--they are really a POS.
 
The Lee dippers are much better than the Lyman IMO.
 
cybin

Offline LanceR

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 420
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 02:12:26 AM »
I have a pair of Redding measures on the bench.  One with a rifle powder chamber and one with a pistol chamber.  The micrometer settings are very consistent and it is quite easy to dial in your recorded setting when getting ready to load another batch of a particular load.  They are so consistently accurate that if I throw a few charges to settle things down after setting the micrometer and then drop 10 charges and weigh them the weight will usually be a small fraction of a grain off of 10 times my target weight for the rifle measure and so close for the pistol measure that the scale can't tell the difference.

I don't have powder baffles in the powder tubes but would recommend then if you are buying one since it keeps the amount of powder above the measuring chamber consistent and adds a wee bit more consistency to the process.  After all, we spend a lot of time talking about accurate rifles and loads but what we really mean is that our firearms and ammo are very consistent.

I haven't used another brand in over 30 years so I can't help there.

Good luck.

Lance

Offline dave29

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (93)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1256
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2012, 10:18:26 AM »
I have been using a Lee, it does OK. It is always +/- .1 grains. Been doing my research to upgrade though. I believe I am going to buy an RCBS electronic scale/dispenser combo.

Offline YRUpunting?

  • Trade Count: (24)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1013
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2012, 02:57:43 PM »
I almost hit buy on the Hornady scale dispenser (Amazon had a great deal) before I made this post.  I just don't want another beeping electronic gizmo in my life.

Offline skarke

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1190
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012, 04:11:16 PM »
This is an absolutely fantastic measure.  It is accurate, as repeatable as any measure ever designed, and will last forever.


http://harrellsprec.com/index.php?crn=49&rn=376&action=show_detail


Unfortunately, they've gone up since I got mine, but with proper technique, it throws EXACTLY the same charge with short extruded powders and ball powders, and rarely cuts long powders.  Fit and finish make this possible, these are hand fit precision instruments.  You'll see Harrells all across the BR line at any BR shoot.


That said, RCBS, Hornady, and others make fine measures, just not quite as fine as the Harrells, IMHO.  I even get really good measures out of a Lee Pro Auto Disk, and it is surprisingly durable.  I just don't use it anymore since I got my LNL press with the Hornady measure.


The Harrell goes with me to the range.  It is just sweet to pull the handle on it, and it is the cheap one:-)
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free.  Ronaldus Maximus

Offline skarke

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1190
Re: Which powder measure?
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2012, 04:18:24 PM »
One other nice thing about the Harrell is that it has click settings that are ultra-repeatable.  No micrometer setting, stem measuring, etc. is needed.  Even considering climate, if I set my Harrell to a number (say, 43), I'll get virtually the same charge, or within a 10th anyway, with the powders that I use regularly (H322, 748, Varget, even some 4831 on occasion for the thumper).


Consider if you haven't handled one, finding a buddy who has one.  They are mind altering:-)
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free.  Ronaldus Maximus