Christian vs. Muslin , really ?

[SHOOTALL]

It is quite abit of posting on Muslims vs Christians . Much attention on this subject. If one goes back in history it seems that is the root of the fight. But after WW1 things changed . It seems the Ottoman Empire was broken up. Some western countries occupied Muslim countries leaving only after WW2. What many fail to realize is in some of these countries Christians had lived for quite some time . Lebanon is a good case and most likely where the resentment for the USA came to a head. It seems that Palistine was devided and the Jews got half. Egypt and Syria occupied the other half ( syria has always felt Lebanon was part of Syria).  War broke out , the Jews ended up with more land than they started with , many fled to Lebanon. The muslims (2 sects) , Christians and a group that believed in a Christian Muslim mix started fighting. Long story short America was there on a peace keeping mission not taking sides. In the end it backed the Govt. of Lebanon ( a govt made up from all 4 groups with a mostly Muslim military) and got sucked into the conflict in a no win situation. It was about the same time suicide bombers came into play. There is much more involved here but it seems the Christian vs. Muslim battle is not really the main reason for some muslim nations/people hating America even though many Americans fail to realize such . Amd the Muslim leaders use it to their advantage.The PLO got pizzed and we have been at war since in what looks like a land grab gone wrong.
 Any thoughts ?

[Singleshotsam]

Well lets look at a few things first.
 
There are 4 sects in Islam.  Many on here claim that all Islamic people want to do is fight and kill each other as well as everyone else.  Which is true. 
 
But lets look at the differenlty denominations of Christianity.  There's about 10 different "main" denominations.  Each one of those denominations are further split into different styles of that particular denomination.  So in the end there is a rather large list of denominations and styles of Christianity.  Why are Christianians so divided?
 
Judism is also divided into about 5 different denominations.
 
The answer is that the history of man has been a violent bloody one.  Jealousy, greed, envy, anger and other basic emotions have led us into the grand civilizations we are today.  A gathering of people all sitting on stockpiles of weapons that have the capability of erasing our entire race out of existance.  All because after thousands and thousands of years, we can't control our basic emotions.
 

[nw_hunter]

The answer is that the history of man has been a violent bloody one.  Jealousy, greed, envy, anger and other basic emotions have led us into the grand civilizations we are today.  A gathering of people all sitting on stockpiles of weapons that have the capability of erasing our entire race out of existance.  All because after thousands and thousands of years, we can't control our basic emotions.
 

I think you might be on to something Sam! And the more we populate this lil ball we live on, the problem will only grow.

[Singleshotsam]

If you want to see how fellow Christians treat each other look no further than the GBO Political Discussion forum.  Simply mentioning that not all Muslims are evil will bring you enough angst to fill a large swimming pool. 

[SHOOTALL]

You miss my point , It seems they hate the west because we didn't let them fight it out among themselves.

[BUGEYE]

After that big flap in northern Ireland, Christians have quit shooting at each other.
muzzies have always killed each other and will continue to do so.
it doesn't say much for their ayatollahs, imams or islam itself.
there's several Christian denominations in my area that join forces occasionally when something like katrini happens.
their latest is sending care boxes to the tornado areas.

[guzzijohn]

Quote from Singleshogtsam:
"If you want to see how fellow Christians treat each other look no further than the GBO Political Discussion forum.  Simply mentioning that not all Muslims are evil will bring you enough angst to fill a large swimming pool. "


Yea, your are correct but then some on this board think that they are the only Christians so I don't think they feel they are treating fellow Christians on this board negatively.
GuzziJohn

[Singleshotsam]

 

You miss my point , It seems they hate the west because we didn't let them fight it out among themselves.

   How did I miss your point?  Basic human nature in all races will show you that were no different now than we were 10,000 years ago.   Granted were launching missles to kill each other via smart phones but the basic premise is the same.  Peace wont exist in any race until weve exterminated ourselves.   As far as Bugeyes quote goes.   

After that big flap in northern Ireland, Christians have quit shooting at each other.

   I think you forgot to include the following:  "For the time being."  And that's only listing a major conflict.  What about news stories you see every day about people murdering each other.  You can honestly say that none of those people are Christians who lost control?  What about all those Christians a couple hundred years ago that owned slaves?  Many of the slaves were Christian.  The list goes on and on and it started when Cain murdered Abel.

[Singleshotsam]

How is talking about the nature of human kind throughout history a vendetta?  I can't help it if your offended by history.

[SHOOTALL]

All of that has been established , why are we fighting ? Why is America the great satan and not France ? What started this conflict ? No doubt old hates exist but what started the flare up this time ?

[powderman]

All of that has been established , why are we fighting ? Why is America the great satan and not France ? What started this conflict ? No doubt old hates exist but what started the flare up this time ?

 
SHOOTALL. Not sure exactly what you mean for sure. We are the great satan because not only are we a Christian nation, America was instrumental in helping Gods chosen ones, Israel, to establish itself as a nation, we were the 1st to recognize Israel as a nation in In 1948. The war with islam is worldwide, we are in a G lobal  W ar  O n  I slam, or GWOI. POWDERMAN. 

[SHOOTALL]

Israel was not what started the fight in Lebanon , they had been a peace keeper to some regard but pulled out before the army in Lebanon was ready to resist the PLO.
The USA got caught in that struggle with no way to win. At the same time we were helping Iraq fight Iran . Sort of the enemy of my enemy is my friend , at least now. So its not just Christian vs. Muslim although that old flame might be used to keep the war going.