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Offline luckydawg13

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44 colt in 44 mag
« on: March 15, 2012, 02:24:23 PM »
i have a box of 44 colt can i shot this in my 44 mag ?
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 02:34:31 PM »
Hello, Luckydawg13.  I have a Kirst conversion in .44 Colt.  Hollow based bullets dropped from a Rapine mould measure .429-.430" dia.  while the bullet dia. is no problem in a .44 magnum....the .44 Colt originally used a "heeled" bullet..the case outside dia. is around .430 also..this would be much too small for either a .44 special or magnum chambering.
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 01:44:27 AM »
thank you
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 10:06:24 AM »
Quote from: luckydawg13 on March 15, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
i have a box of 44 colt can i shot this in my 44 mag ?

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I assume that were talking about loaded ammo here ?
 
 If so you will be able to shoot them in your 44 mag , the only real difference between the two are the case OL and the rim Dia. which is .022 smaller on the Colt cartridges .
 
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 06:11:32 PM »
yep loaded ammo my brother works at blackhills ammo and i got a box from him
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 05:16:36 PM »
Hello, luckydawg..I must apologize..I saw your post at work, got home & measured those .44 Colt cases..and by golly..there just about identical with .44 spec. & mag. dimensions..except for rim dia...then I couldn't remember where I saw your post!
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 04:06:38 AM »
Original 44 colt heel based bullets measured around .451 but i doubt he has a box of originals. So yes the current black hills 44 colts are designed to be shot in 44 special and magnum revolvers.
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 11:55:01 AM »
When I purchased my Ruger SuperBlackhawk hunter, I was shocked to find the fired case in the envelope was a Blackhills 44colt!
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Re: 44 colt in 44 mag
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 07:19:09 PM »
Just a thought guys...Someone once commented how lucky we were today to be able to form .40-70 straight brass using .30-40 Krag brass stretched.  They thought it a lucky coincidence.  I don't think luck had anything to do with it...when the US army wanted a new small bore military rifle in the 1890's, Frankford arsenal probably contacted Winchester & told them what they wanted..they had bean counters back then..and instead of re-inventing the wheel..they probably looked at the old (by then) .40-70 straight case, invisioned it shortened & bottlenecked..and viola..the .30-40 was born.
   It's interesting about this .44 Colt case, S&W was producing their big .44 American top-break in the early 1870's..this was also a heeled bullet..none too accurate, from what I have read.  When the Russian govt. approched them..they liked the big top-break revolver..but not the ctg.  S&W developed the very accurate .44 Russian for the contract revolvers.  Now the .44 Russian has the same case and bullet dia. of the later .44 special, and still later .44 Mag.  Interestingly...The .44 Colt case does also..only S&W used an inside lubed bullet..Could it be that S&W copied a shortened version of Colts .44? ???
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