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Offline Thomas Krupinski

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« on: February 11, 2004, 04:16:15 AM »
Chris,

I guess for turkey loads you won't be needing much in the way of production, so a single stage press will probably fit your needs very well.

RCBS certainly does make shotgun loading equipment.  I even have a set of their 12 gauge dies that I have never used.  They also make a progressive press called a Grand that looks well made, and a single stage press.  Look in the Midway or Cabelas catalogs and they have pictures of these.

However I think you will probably be better served with a MEC sizemaster press, unless your output requirements are slight and you can get by with the RCBS die set for your RockChucker.

It's a different game with shotgun reloading, but just as much fun and you have quite a bit of ability to tailor your loads to fit your barrel and choke combinations to produce the best pattern.

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2004, 04:49:11 AM »
It's hard to go wrong with a MEC 600 Jr. for doing small runs of specialized shells.  And, they can be purchased pretty cheap on eBay or new from a lot of different places.

Get yourself a reloading handbook, pick the hulls, wads, powder and shot that you want from the handbook, and away you go.

The Lyman Shotshell reloading handbook is good, and Ballistic products has a handbook strictly for Turkey loads if you want a really specialized load.

Here's a link to their load books:
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/bpi_homepage/products/prod_literature/t3-manuals/manuals.htm

Go about 3/4 of the way down the page to the Turkey Ranger loads.

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2004, 10:09:18 AM »
One of the main differences between shotshell loading and metalic cartridge is the limitations on load recipes.  You must use a published, tested shotshell load to be safe.  You can't just swap components as you could with metalic cartridges.  For rifle, I could swap a Hornady bullet for a Sierra (of the same weight) without any real impact.  You cannot just swap wads in shotgun loads the same way.  Not only could there be significant pressure excursions, but the load may not stack up right to fit in the hull and achieve a good, firm crimp.  Without a good crimp, your load will not perform ballistically.  The shotshell load specifies the hull, the primer, powder, wad, and weight of shot.  (Size of the shot is interchangeable, with some limitations.  1 1/8 oz of #9 does not have the same volume as 1 1/8 oz of #2.)

The process of reloading is similiar to what you've done in metallic cartridge reloading, except you need a wad and a load of shot where you had just needed a bullet before.  Steps are: size/deprime, reprime, powder charge, load and seat wad, load shot, crimp.  The crimp could be two or three separate steps, depending on the machine.  Some machines do not size the hull, and many times it is not required.  Shotgun pressures are a lot lower than metalics.

For equipment, you'll need to decide if you want a single stage or progressive press.  As in metallics, it is price vs. speed, although the progressive shotgun press is a bit cheaper than a progressice metallic reloading press.  I like MEC shotgun loaders, and if you opt for a progressive, look to a used MEC 650 or Grabber press.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2004, 12:00:36 PM »
I am sorry to announce that RCBS does not make the shotshell Die sets anymore. I got a set about a year ago and had to look very hard to find a set and the set I got had some water damage (reads rust) nothing that i could not work with.

If you can find a set they work well but are slow and would be you best bet for the loading of "special loads", turkey, and sugs. they let you pour the shot (or slug)  in manually where most other loaders do this for you.

If you are only loading a few shells a year the lee press may not be a bad deal for you and they are only about $50. new when you can find them.

the next step up will be the MEC 600 Jr that runs about $120

If you want to load more then you can move up to the hornady or RCBS progressive

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2004, 01:12:46 PM »
MEC makes a good shotshell reloader.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2004, 06:26:14 AM »
Chris,

Send me an e-mail at:  krupinski@aaahawk.com as I don't have any need for mine.  Maybe we can trade for something or you may just want to borrow them to try out.

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2004, 01:07:59 AM »
I am using the old style mec jr. MEC still makes dies for it and they make the dies for the jr. mark v.  There are a few differances but they still work the same.  You can pick up a used MED jr. for very cheap at skeet ranges and on e-bay. i payed 35 dollars for mine about 2 yrs ago. it was set up for 410 and i have purchesed 12, 20 and 16 ga dies from gamiel, midway usa and from MEC. parts are readly available. for hull go to the skeet ranges and get the used hulls from the garbage barrels. most of the time you can get good hulls that have been fired one time. I recommend you read up on hulls and how to inspect them to make sure you have ones that are in good shape to reload.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2004, 03:47:58 PM »
I have been reloading rifle and handgun for only a couple of years myself, but I have been reloading shotgun shells for over 25.  To be honest you just can't beat the MEC 600. I have 3 of them in 410, 20, and 16 gauge. They are simple to use and easy to learn on. I also have a MEC progressive 12 gauge that after all these years I still make mistakes with.  Stick with the 600 and you will be fine. Someday Im going to sell my progressive and buy another 600.Hope this helps
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