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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 04:41:40 AM »
my daughters boyfriend is from NO and he said a lot of the cops there were swaggering thugs.
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 05:52:13 AM »
Usually, when cops do stuff like this, the culture of their police department and its leaders are reflected in the act. If the cops are doing stuff like this, the police department is probably rotten to the core, from the mayor on down.

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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 06:00:41 AM »
Usually, when cops do stuff like this, the culture of their police department and its leaders are reflected in the act. If the cops are doing stuff like this, the police department is probably rotten to the core, from the mayor on down.
That is an absolute known fact, New Orleans PD is infamously crooked. I worked with a small town cop who had moved there from the New Orleans PD and he had some stories to tell that many people would not believe.
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 07:22:02 AM »
  What a disgraceful chapter in the history of that city and this country.  :(
 
  I think that crime committed by those in positions of power is especially dispicable.  When police, politicians or other community 'leaders' use their power to commit or cover up crime it should have an additional sentence for the abuse of public trust. 

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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 11:00:33 AM »
One of the 1st things they did was to disarm the law abiding citizens leaving them helpless to other thugs. The NRA fought the city on that and won. Used to be a guy on another board who lived there. He had run thieves off from his own place and several neighbors at gunpoint. The police came to take his guns and he flat out told them that they would have to kill him and that if possible he would kill them first. They left him alone. It's hard to imagine the mentality, or lack of, that would disarm the law abiding in time of crisis. Can anybody say, DEMOCRATS??  POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 11:09:46 AM »
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Can anybody say, DEMOCRATS??

 
 
 
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 11:28:47 AM »
One of the 1st things they did was to disarm the law abiding citizens leaving them helpless to other thugs.
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Can anybody say, DEMOCRATS??  POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Don't give the Dems too much credit; what we have here is LE/gov't mindset. The LEO attitude that citizens aren't to be trusted with guns goes waaaaaay past political allegiances.
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 12:24:11 PM »
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Don't give the Dems too much credit; what we have here is LE/gov't mindset. The LEO attitude that citizens aren't to be trusted with guns goes waaaaaay past political allegiances.

 
 
 
That mindset is much stronger in the dem's camp, but you are right, it does come from both sides.
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 01:26:20 PM »
Don't give the Dems too much credit; what we have here is LE/gov't mindset. The LEO attitude that citizens aren't to be trusted with guns goes waaaaaay past political allegiances.

 
  That is way too true.  I have seen more examples than I'm comfortable with of police and even millitary/ ex millitary who seem to think that only they should be armed.  There is an institutionalized mindset that they know guns and they understand responsability through their service and all others are 'civy pukes' who can't be trusted.
 
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 01:35:57 PM »
20 officers were charged altogether, in this case. Anyone know the total number of officers employed by NO at the time?
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 02:18:43 PM »
......and now for another view point.
I volunteered for duty in NO after Katrina and was deployed. I was actually there when Rita came by. Anyway, I wrote the following about some of my experiences there:
Back from New Orleans « on: November 01, 2005, 12:08:30 pm »
     

Howdy Gang,

Well...I'm back from New Orleans.

It was quite an experiance! And that's about all I can say, it was so different that it's difficult to put into words! The devastation down there is nearly indiscribeable (SP?) But it's strange!!! East NO and the Ninth ward look like the aftermath of a nuke, yet the down town area and the French Quarter looked nearly untouched. (looked being the operative word there). Even those areas suffered some damage, flooding, wind damage, looting damage...but it's sporadic in nature. Many businesses are operative, some completely, others running under the gun and trying to stay open while cleaning up and repairing damage at the same time.

I should also tell you that what you have seen on television doesn't do justice to the conditions there. While going through the hard hit areas I felt so sad and at the same time insignificant, unable to help all the thousands of locals who are trying to salvage something of their former lives. No pictures can really make one understand the heartbreaking scenes one encounters. Homes with water lines eight feet high, windows and doors missing, roofs torn off.......with huge piles of furniture, clothing, toys, and the hundreds of personal things that we all take for granted, piled in the streets in front of them. And families picking through those remains of their lives. The really hard part? Mile after mile, after mile, after mile.....of the same scenes of devastated homes and lives!

And yet....the people!!!!!!!! They are astounding! You walk through through all that destruction thinking "I CAN'T help all these people" and then some poor guy who is digging through the remains of his home will see you and yell out, "HEY! Thanks for coming here!" as you go by. Sometimes, the locals will be fixing themselves coffee on a coleman setting in the back of a old pickup truck and they will offer to share with the soldiers and police officers working in their neighborhood....they have NOTHING but they want to share their coffee! It's astounding how much they appreciate what little they have and what little we can do for them!

Speaking of which, much has been said in the news about the cops down there. Even while I was there the news media was yelling about more NO officers being fired for deserting their posts and more being investigated. I don't know the facts on that score but I want to share with you a bit of what I experianced. My group was assigned to work with one of the locals (sop was to team up deployed officers with a local). During a break between shifts he took several of us to his home. His house had part of the roof missing, the windows down one side were all gone, and it was looted. He had working electrical outlets on one wall, and running water had been restored, but there was water damage throughout the house. He is staying in one room and has a bathroom...that's all! THIS IS WHERE  HE LIVES...his home, his lifes work! His family was evacuated and he hasn't seen them for over a month. But he stills shows up for work every day and somehow maintains his sense of humor. He sees his fellow New Orleanians and their suffering day in and day out, helps them when he can, commiserates with them when he can't, laughs at jokes, works, and keeps trying.....only once did I see him look like he was about to cry. While in his home looking at the damage and talking about how was going to fix it he mentioned that the drawings his five year old daughter had on the refridgerator were destroyed and he could NEVER replace those. In that moment I could see the anguish in his eyes. And then he started talking about other things, the future.......These are tough cops who are full of love for each other and for their city! They will survive and New Orleans will be back and better than ever, in part because of the many cops who refused to cut & run!

Racial issues: That's another place the news media has done a disservice! There are no racial issues! Except in the minds of the few crap stirrers!  But the media showcases those very ones! The truth is, there are no blacks, no whites, no Native Americans, no Hispanics....there are just people, trying to help or trying to survive! On my final night in New Orleans I was able to go "partying" in the French Quarter. ME! A big dumb white boy from up north! LOL!!! I went into one bar to get a soda (my outfit was strictly forbidden to drink alcohol while deployed) and every face in the place was black...and multiple voices cried out, "Hey Man!, can  we get you a drink? You want some gumbo?...." They didn't give a damn that some "white boy" intruded on their "turf", they wanted to have fun for a little bit and wanted me to feel welcome and be part of their fun. They are just people..astonishing in many ways, but still humans wanting to share with other humans!

I could write so much more, but at the same time I realize that what I write would be totally inadaquet. Suffice it to say that I want to go back, perhaps not behind a badge next time but I DO want to go back there. I saw NO while it was beaten down....but like the Tee shirts say, "I LOVE NEW ORLEANS!!!!!" 


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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 03:03:51 PM »
CUTS. Great thing you did volunteering to help your fellow man like that. If the cop you were with hadn't seen his family in over a month then it was at least a month after katrina had hit. Rt after it hit the city of Lou took in a bunch of refugees. The deadbeats I believe left first, and Lou got a bunch of them. The city went all out to make them comfortable and keep them entertained. The zoo, shows, games, and I forget what all else, it cost them nothing for food or anything else. Citizens came out of the woodwork offering to take in sgls, even entire families. Crime went way up, hosts were robbed, etc. One lady was offered a home to stay with a family and she said no, she heard there was going to be ANOTHER check and she didn't want to miss out on it. Stories like that were from every place that took them in. Next hurricane NO called again asking for sanctuary, the city said NO THANK YOU.
It's great what you did and should be commended for it but I believe what you saw were the good folks with most of the rabble gone. Good job Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: Several leos sentenced to decades for katrina shootings.
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 01:08:16 PM »
<snip>If the cop you were with hadn't seen his family in over a month then it was at least a month after katrina had hit. <snip>
It's great what you did and should be commended for it but I believe what you saw were the good folks with most of the rabble gone. Good job Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D

Powderman, Yeah I left to come back to my world on November 1st, I'd been there a while!!!!

And you are probably right about the folks I dealt with while there, they were people with a vested interest in getting their lives/businesses back together. Folks with strong values and a work ethic. And while the ones who left for greener pastures may have been a lot, the ones that remained, and started to rebuild their city and their lives, are probably the real heart and soul of New Orleans. It takes a few really good people to make a good city, and I think New Orleans had more than enough of those! I'm glad I went, and I'm proud to know those I met and worked with there.

In an aside, that last night I was there was Halloween night. It was the first chance the city had to "kick up it's heels" since Katrina hit! Now....Halloween ain't Mardi Gras by any stretch but OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! A big dumb farm boy should NOT be exposed to that stuff! :o ;)
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