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US car companies: Leaders or followers?
« on: April 16, 2012, 04:29:12 AM »
Even GM cars in the US are better than they were just a few years ago, and Ford has some good offerings. Not sure about Fiat/Chrysler, but they seem to be starting a decline again.
 
Are the US companies leaders or followers?
 
My take is that they are leaders in some aspects of the industry, like pickup trucks an SUVs, especially SUVs.
 
As for other kinds of cars, it seems that other companies are really leading and innovating and offering more desirable vehicles.
 
Are the "big 3" copycats riding on the backs of the real innovators?
 
Just judging from recent purchases by friends and family during the past few years, I'm surprised to see long time drivers of "big 3" cars switching brands to buy Nissans and Volkswagens and other "foreign" brands. The only exceptions are those who have bought trucks or SUVs.
 
I used to see a lot of new Chrysler mini vans, but don't see nearly as many as I used to. There are still plenty of mini vans on the road, but I see a lot of Toyotas and Hondas now. And a lot of the "cross-over" vehicles. The Chrysler mini vans I see are either old, or one of a relatively few new ones that I see. I don't know if this means that a wave of child rearing has ended and that people are just not interested in mini vans anymore.
 
Bottom line is that it looks like the US auto industry is in transition in a big way.
 
 

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Re: US car companies: Leaders or followers?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 05:15:56 AM »
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Re: US car companies: Leaders or followers?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 07:00:19 AM »
The Big Three only built small cars to get their Fleet average gas milage up.  A government requirement.  They did not put much time effort, research, or development into ther small fleet, as it really did not bring in much revanue.  For small cars they did not get good mileage, and they had lots of problems.

The money was in Trucks and SUVs.  That is where the Big Three spent their money on research and development of the money makers.

Now that gas has gone through the roof small cars with good mileage figures are in demand.  The Big Three just does not have one of those.  Hence Honda, Nission, Volkswagen, the ones that are known for their fuel economy and reliability.  Something American small cars just does not have.

Now GM sort of had a good idea, for their Tracker series, they were built by Suzuki.  The last ones were the Suzuki Grand Vitaria, with Chevy logos on it.  The Pontiac Vibe was a Toyota Matrix with the Pontiac emblem.  GM let Suzuki and Toyota do the research and development, and they got a good vehicle. 

I was looking at the engine on my new Jeep Wrangler.  My son came up and said, "Pretty good idea putting a Mitsubishi engine in a Jeep".  I asked what he was talking about.  He raised the hood on my Eclipse, and said, "Take a look".  While the top accessories are different, underneath they are the same.  Even tho one sits transverse, and the other sits longitudnaly.  In other words the Eclipse sits east west, and the jeep sits north south.  That's when he told me Chrysler and Mitsubishi share a plant and use the others platforms and engines.  Surprise to me.

Now as for the mini vans, they are falling out of favor for the most part.   
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