Powderman, in your other post about college coruption with the grant for 17 million to U.of Oregon. I see this tieing in, on a much larger scale. Since the '60's, when govt. got it's nose involved with student loans and grants to college's and university's, price to go to, and finish college has skyrocketed. I wonder if any of the politicians and professors have any idea that their gravy train will be coming to an end! The teachers and presidents of college's have such inflated wages and benifits, when a correction is made, and it will happen, what a serious let down for many. How many grads oweing $20,000-$40,000 in student loans are never going to pay them off working at McDonalds or Home Depot. gypsyman