Tennessee teen: I was banned from prom over Confederate flag dress

[SwampThing762]

I guess the do-good pc-libbers have no sense of history.....

Tennessee teen: I was banned from prom over Confederate flag dress
MEMPHIS – A high school senior from West Tennessee says she was banned from attending her prom because her dress resembled a Confederate battle flag, WMC-TV in Memphis reported.
"It wasn't done to offend anybody," Texanna Edwards, 18, told the NBC station. "It was done just for the sole fact that I just wanted a rebel flag dress because I thought it was cool."
But officials at Gibson County High School officials in Dyer, Tenn., did not agree with her coolness factor. Principal James Hughes declined comment to WMC.
"He told us y'all have to leave because the dress is inappropriate," Edwards said. She said that last year she wore a camouflage dress to the prom without any objection.
She said she doesn't understand why the dress was banned because students in school wear rebel flag shirts, hats and belt buckles.
"I don't see the point of not letting someone in their one and only prom, senior prom. The year they graduate. Doesn't represent anything bad," student Cody Beasley told WMC-TV.
Gibson County Special School District Superintendent Eddie Pruett, however, said a teacher had warned Edwards months ago that the dress might be inappropriate, The Associated Press reported. Pruett said there have been racial tensions at the school in recent years and the high school principal worried the dress could have caused more, according to the AP.


I have ancestors that died under that flag, and sanctified Southern soil.   This makes me sick!!


ST762

[Singleshotsam]

Do we as a society really not have bigger issues to worry about than this?  Were 16 Trillion dollars in the hole.  We have troops dying in a country that we no longer have any business in.  Were paying money into a "retirement" system that we will never see a penny from and this makes the news?  Not to mention the fantastic choices we have for the next president.
 
As long as the dress covered the better part of her anatomy then let her wear the dang thing.  I'm sure that there are girls that go to that school that dress like strippers. 
 

[yellowtail3]

Po' little girl... Perhaps she can borrow Daddy's robes?

[SwampThing762]

This was actually an informative thread until a liberal showed up and tried to make it about the Klan.    I guess it should come as no surprise, as he left has nothing else to offer to the discussion.

ST762

[SwampThing762]

Singleshotsam,

Well said, sir.

ST762

[guzzijohn]

Quote from SwampThing762:
"This was actually an informative thread until a liberal showed up and tried to make it about the Klan.    I guess it should come as no surprise, as he left has nothing else to offer to the discussion."


I think he offered a valid point. Maybe many of you southern folk do not see any negatives in the confederate flag but many others do. To many the flag reflects the slavery era and the terrible treatment of many blacks both before, during and after slavery. Many here would be quite supportive of a female wearing a burqa being refused entry because of what it may represent to some. Besides if you still feel the confederate flag should be respected then she should have been turned away for disrespecting it by turning into a dress. My two and a half cents worth.
GuzziJohn

[Dixie Dude]

There are monuments all over the south in small towns and big that honors the Confederate soldiers that fell in battle.  9 out of 10 Confederate soldiers didn't even own slaves, they fought for their state.  A lot of people were more loyal to their states than the Federal government before the Civil War.  Slavery was bad, but it would have gone the way of share cropping that sprang up after the war.  Share cropping started before the war in some areas.  It would have spread.  A war didn't have to be fought over slavery.  It was fought to bring the south back into the union. 

[m-g Willy]

. Many here would be quite supportive of a female wearing a burqa being refused entry because of what it may represent to some.GuzziJohn

The thing is ,,,,that if a student wore a "burqa, a black pride shirt or even  a Mexican flag they would have walked right in,
and if anything were said to make them feel unwelcome the ACLU as well as all the lib media would be all over the story screaming about their rights being trampled!
 

[Casull]

I think he offered a valid point. Maybe many of you southern folk do not see any negatives in the confederate flag but many others do.

 
 
Well, I disagree.  His so-called "valid point" was to call this girl's father a racist klansman and promote censurship, all because of a dress.  BTW, does that mean anytime that some "see any negatives" in something, we should just ban it?  I may be going out on a limb here, but I doubt you would go along with that.

[kynardsj]

The Confederate battle flag is a symbol of our southern heritage. Nothing to do with hate. The war was not fought over slavery it was fought over rights. Some people are just too narrow minded or ignorant to know this.

[lakota]

Its best not to comment on these threads because the resident smarmy liberals come out with their "smart" comments about klan robes and what not...even though these "smart" comments are worn and tired.

[Doublebass73]

The Confederate battle flag is a symbol of our southern heritage. Nothing to do with hate. The war was not fought over slavery it was fought over rights. Some people are just too narrow minded or ignorant to know this.

I'm as Yankee as they come, grew up in Massachusetts and now live in New Hampshire. I've never been further south than Pennsylvania in my life but I will tell you this, I wish the south had won. There is nothing offensive about the rebel flag. The founders intent was to have a VOLUNTARY union of states. The southern states should have been free to leave the union but instead were forced to remain in a union they didn't want to be in at gunpoint. Slavery (as wrong as it is) doesn't matter either way in the argument, it was the south's right to leave. Abe Lincoln was a tyrant and the beginning of the era of big federal government.

[SwampThing762]

Quote from SwampThing762:
"This was actually an informative thread until a liberal showed up and tried to make it about the Klan.    I guess it should come as no surprise, as he left has nothing else to offer to the discussion."


I think he offered a valid point. Maybe many of you southern folk do not see any negatives in the confederate flag but many others do. To many the flag reflects the slavery era and the terrible treatment of many blacks both before, during and after slavery. Many here would be quite supportive of a female wearing a burqa being refused entry because of what it may represent to some. Besides if you still feel the confederate flag should be respected then she should have been turned away for disrespecting it by turning into a dress. My two and a half cents worth.
GuzziJohn

Guzzijohn, that Klan remark was about as valid as a hole in my shoe.   Nobody mentioned the Klan in the article, and there was no discussion of the Klan until a liberal showed up and injected his vitriol.   All those do-gooder liberals stick their nose into conversations and make everybody miserable, so the pc-do-gooders don't have to be miserable by themselves.

I am going to give you a brief history lesson -- the South left the Union because the North usurped the authority of a voluntary union of states because Yankee abolitionists refused to return the rightful property of the Southern citizenry (your Yankee Underground Railroad and committees of safety, etc).    The South refused to play petty Yankee games, and we left the Union.   The liberal North, which had worse racial practices than the South, again, had to stick their nose where it didn't belong.   That is why the South went to war.  Liberal Yankee propagandists said it was about slavery all along.  They were wrong, and still are.    Abe Lincoln himself refutes their argument, rendering it invalid.      As to the symbol of hate, it is a symbol of heritage.    You decry the Confederate ensign as a symbol of hate; you are still on the wrong side of history.    Old Glory has a longer history of hate than the Confederate ensign.     Ask the Mohawk, the Cherokee, the Sioux, the Apache, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho, the Irish, Swedes, Germans, and Japanese about the legacy of hate under the Stars and Stripes.

Last, but definitely not least, there were thousands of black soldiers who served in the Confederate army, many of whom were decorated with honors.   Your liberal Yankee proagandists won't tell you that fact, either.

ST762

[yellowtail3]

Thanks to swamp thing for the history lesson. But he's getting personal, and he is confused... I'm not a liberal by rational poli standards, I have voted for every repub pres candidate since Ronaldus Magnus, I've worked on one campaign (repub) ... I am a veteran... And I've got a closet full (used to be full pre layoff) of milsurps, and I still have fifty or so pounds of venison left from last season. And I carry.

Judging by standards here, one might be left thinking 'conservatives' are all racist xenophobes and haters  gullible enough to buy whatever caters to their prejudices... But we all KNOW that ain't true, right?


...right???
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I doubt Daddy of little miss stars-n-bars is a klansman... Just hasn't taught his darter much discern,ent. But then, he might be!

[Casull]

Judging by standards here, one might be left thinking 'conservatives' are all racist xenophobes and haters  gullible enough to buy whatever caters to their prejudices... But we all KNOW that ain't true, right?

 
 
Uh, there was only one person who brought race into this discussion.  And, I don't believe he is a conservative (either?).  Right?

[Singleshotsam]

The bottom line is that the Civil war was not fought over slavery.  If you think that then you are an idiot.  Plain and simple.  The fact that there is still segregation based on a war that was fought almost 150 years ago is also idiotic.  Should we ban and censor marks from history from either side of the war, certainly not.  We must always remember history so that we are not doomed to repeat it.  (Although lately it seems as if if it's fixing to repeat itself again...)
 
Now, it is truth that a very small minority of people have used the "Rebel Flag" or more appropriately termed Confederate Battle Flag as a symbol of racial tensions and hate.  Those people are also compelte idiots.  But it's not to say that all people who choose to display the battle flag are racial biggots.  Thus far most everybody's comments have been mostly relevant to the conversation.  Yellowtail made a reference to the Klan.  It's the Klan that used the Confederate Battle Flag in it's retarded cerimonies therefore degrading and disrespecting something that once stood for honor and purpose.  So really his remarks weren't too far off the mark.  It doesn't make him a liberal, just somebody who realizes that there are some people who have abused this historical symbol and others that will make a big stink about it.  I'm certain that in the near future the Gadsden Flag will have a stigma attatched to it as well... Time will tell.
 
But you guys that are freaking out about a Klan related comment need to relax a bit.  All opinions are welcome here and they are just that... opinions.

[guzzijohn]

Quote from Casull"
"Uh, there was only one person who brought race into this discussion.  And, I don't believe he is a conservative (either?).  Right?"





Quote from OP's original posting:
 Pruett said there have been racial tensions at the school in recent years and the high school principal worried the dress could have caused more, according to the AP.

[guzzijohn]

Quote from SwmpThing762:
"As to the symbol of hate, it is a symbol of heritage.    You decry the Confederate ensign as a symbol of hate; you are still on the wrong side of history.    Old Glory has a longer history of hate than the Confederate ensign.     Ask the Mohawk, the Cherokee, the Sioux, the Apache, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho, the Irish, Swedes, Germans, and Japanese about the legacy of hate under the Stars and Stripes."


Sadly I will not argue the above. One difference is that the American Flag is still our (USA) official flag, the confederate flag is not.


Three questions:
1. Please educate me on the ways the North treated blacks worse as a whole than slavery and the South in general did during that period.
2. No one has addressed my comment that the girl was disrespectful to a flag that many apparently still hold as sacred by making it into a dress.
3. Although it was commented that a girl wearing a burqa would be let right in, I asked would any here approve of or turned away a girl wearing a burqa if they had been in charge of this prom.
GuzziJohn

[SwampThing762]

Guzzijohn,

I shall address your questions.

1.   There has been no comment comparing Yankee treatment of blacks to Southern treatment of blacks.  Blacks were treated horribly, by modern standards, as a matter of course.  In the South, blacks were considered property [and cared for as maintenance of property], and the Yankee abolitionists refused to return another man's property.   This answer is a bit simplistic, but it provides a direct answer to your query.

2.   What is the difference between the CSA flag as a dress and Old Glory being made into, bikinis, swimsuits, t-shirts, etc?    it is the same thing.  My whole thing is that she was banned because of supposed "racial tensions'.  generally, the only racial tensions come from blacks.

3.   On this one, Muslims are given preferred treament over any Christians and Jews, nowadays, so I think there is truth to that statement.    If it were my event, yes, I would deny entry unless it could be proven there is no threat.   However, a search by a female administrator or police officer could establish that fact.    TSA would have too much fun with someone in a burqa.


yt3,   evidently the mods saw no problem with the post.   Also, history shows that it is always the left and liberals that inject the Klan into any discussion of Southern heritage.    We will just agree to disagree.

ST762

[KIMBER45]

I wonder what remarks would be make if a Muslim showed up wearing full Muslim dress attire? Would the conservatives here be as understanding? I think not.They would throw out a whole lot of racial, bad taste insults. Same reaction- different dress attire. Also if the school had a large populations of African Americans, the school is smart in stopping any tension among the students that may turn  violent. Schools have the right to protect their students. It's the same reason gang bangers are not allowed to wear their " symbols" while attending school.

[Casull]

I wonder what remarks would be make if a Muslim showed up wearing full Muslim dress attire? Would the conservatives here be as understanding?

 
 
Hmmm, would the liberals here be as quick to judge and claim racism as they are with this girl?

[KIMBER45]

It would be interesting to know the demographics of the school district.If the school had a large populations of African Americans, the school is smart in stopping any tension among the students that may turn  violent. Schools have the right to protect their students. It's the same reason gang bangers are not allowed to wear their " symbols" while attending school. If that is the reason, no one should have issue with the schools decision.

[yellowtail3]

I wonder what remarks would be make if a Muslim showed up wearing full Muslim dress attire? Would the conservatives here be as understanding?

Well, some conservatives would be fine with it ... Very important to understand that conservative ain't the same as obsessive xenophobic anti-Muslim bigot. But it is an easy mistake to make, seeing that there appears to be some considerabe overlap here at GBO, which does confuse the picture a bit...

[Casull]

Well, some conservatives would be fine with it ... Very important to understand that conservative ain't the same as obsessive xenophobic anti-Muslim bigot. There is some considerabe overlap here at GBO, which does confuse the picture a bit...

 
 
Well, the problem here was not anti-muslim bigots, but rather anti-white Southerners bigots (see post . . . oops, that was your post).

[yellowtail3]

Well, the problem here was not anti-muslim bigots, but rather anti-white Southerners bigots (see post . . . oops, that was your post).

You are confused, Bro. Casull... I've got no problem with white people. I like them just fine. In fact, I have some white friends. Even my girlfriend is white... And she's from Alabama! (lots of fun during football season.. Roll, Tide, roll!)

...and I am a Southerner.

[Casull]

And yet you pulled the race (and Klan) card faster than an Ed McGivern fast draw.