Alaska Dave, now why do you go and post such nonsense!! We all know it's Bush's fault. Obie's policy's haven't kicked into effect yet. Price of canned veggie's and such has almost doubled, gas is up 50%,unemployment is up.(except for govt. workers, and they keep going up). Printing food stamps is up, pretty soon it'll be like Germany in the early 30's. Wheelbarrow full of foodstamps and you can buy a couple days worth of food. Now that I'm thinking about it, we've had the hope part of his plan, I'm going to the reloading bench to prepare for the change part that's coming our way. gypsyman