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« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2004, 11:09:23 AM »

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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2004, 11:42:07 AM »
There should be no question as to whether we went to war over WMDs. We didn't, and the message by the Bush administration was deceiving.  

The reason for the war is that, after 9/11, the entire Arab world was expecting U.S. retribution. Had that retribution not occurred, our country would be perceived as weak, and therefore, ripe for more such attacks.  

Unfortunately, the administration must believe that American citizens and the world community will interpret such a stark message as being too belligerent.
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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2004, 11:54:36 AM »
I see the political rhetoric that attempts to mark Kerry as being prone to change his position on matters.  But this misses the most important point.

One thing that fails to be mentioned is that Kerry established and has maintained his political career as an anti-war activist.  Not a draft-dodger, as Clinton was, but an activist.

By ignoring this fact, are we collectively saying that it is OK if the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces is a career anti-war activist?
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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2004, 12:24:49 PM »
Hey Mikey?

About that ticket to Spain for Kerry;  I'll contribute for a one way ticket....

...half way.

 :)

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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2004, 03:39:09 AM »
Oooooooooooooooooooooo, I like the way you think........... :-D .  Mikey.

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« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2004, 06:46:41 AM »
"Kerry is given to flip-flopping?

Let's just start counting off the top of our heads:

George W. Bush was opposed to a commission to investigate how and why 9-11 occurred, but then he changed his mind and backed it.

He was certainly opposed to a commission to investigate the intelligence failures on Iraq, but then he changed his mind and backed it.  

He now brags, "I went to the U.N. [before invading Iraq]"? Who recalls why he changed his mind about doing that? He originally said he not only did not need to consult the United Nations -- he did not even have to consult the U.S. Congress.

Anyone remember how Bush, the corporate ethicist of Harken Energy, opposed the Sarbanes-Oxley bill? Sarbanes-Oxley was a mildly reformist piece of legislation deemed slightly necessary in the wake of the staggering accounting scandals that caused the collapse of Enron, Tyco and WorldCom.

There seemed to be a new record bankruptcy every week, but our president didn't think we needed any new laws to prevent such things -- my, no. When did he change his mind and decide to sign it? After it passed the House with one vote against it.

Remember when we weren't going to negotiate with North Korea? Then we weren't going to negotiate with North Korea again, but we would "talk" to North Korea, but only in multilateral "talking," until Bush changed his mind yet again and now we're in multilateral negotiations.

Remember when the United Nations was "unnecessary" and "irrelevant," and boy was Bush ever ready to tell it to go jump in the lake? We now think the United Nations is so useful and necessary that we call on it not just for Iraq but for Haiti and other trouble spots as well.

Remember when we didn't need any civilian or international advice about how to pacify and reconstruct Iraq -- our military could do it just fine, thank you?

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« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2004, 08:01:59 AM »
hay targetshooter:  if you want that anit-war protesting anarchist for a president as someone who would protect this country and its internal and international interests, then vote for that demicrapatic demigodlike commie son of a b____ and scrap your Greybeard handle on this forum, cause the one thing you won't ever be doing again if he gets elected is target shooting.

Once you get that through your nitro-cellulose soden skewed liberal perspective and realize that IN A FREE DEMOCRACY you can not have laws that control every single aspect of society, business, politics or individual activity, you will (or should) understand that your right to protest a Bush or kerry agenda will be as dead as your right to own a gun if you elect kerry.

But, of course, since you are a target shooter, then: losing the right to have more than five shots in a rifle won't bother you; or, losing the right to have a 50 caliber rifle probably won't bother you; or losing the right to own and possess your own firearms in your own home probably won't bother your, or losing the right to own a firearm in the same caliber as military firearms probably won't bother you; or losing the right to possess ammunition in your own home probably won't bother you; or having to go to the police station to check out your firearms before target shooting (but only at a police sanctioned activity probably won't bother you; or having your long term next door neighbor, friend and shooting partner shot in his living room by the 'gun-cops' because he possessed legal firearms in his own home to defend himself and his family probably won't bother you, either.

Criminals having guns when law abiding citizens cannot probably won't bother you too much either because you probably feel you would never be victimized - it can't happen to you in a kerry/klinton/gore/schumer/feinstein police state.  

Why does reading your posts remind me of all the historical articles and letters I read about the progroms, gun controls and police state activities of the nazis and the 3rd reich before and during the 2nd WW - why is it so many lose so much perspective in such a short period of time.  Why, because klinton had it right - the voters are stupid, don't think and forget - conveniently.

Why is it you rail so much against the one man who has brought some common decency back to the White House and re-established the legitimacy of the presidency - damnit man, the stench from the klintons is barely out of the air and the rest of the country ('cept possibly you) is still reeling from the shock of klinton's poligamy and disgusting assault on American values.  

When, in God's name, are people like you finally going to realize that the world is not made up of those who believe in and practice the theory of equating all standards of moral and ethical behavior to the lowest common denominator, and that if this is what you expect from the presidency, then go to spain, they've got a socialist in power over there now and would probably welcome dissenters.  But, forget about taking your targetshootin' guns mister, they bombed Guernica in 1938.  Mikey.

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« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2004, 08:58:01 AM »

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« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2004, 09:02:42 AM »
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if you want that anit-war protesting anarchist for a president as someone who would protect this country and its internal and international interests, then vote for that demicrapatic demigodlike commie son of a b____ ........Once you get that through your nitro-cellulose soden skewed liberal perspective..........


how does anyone like you get to be a moderator of anything. you aren't moderate and you dont moderate.

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« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2004, 10:02:49 AM »
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Quote from: Mikey
if you want that anit-war protesting anarchist for a president as someone who would protect this country and its internal and international interests, then vote for that demicrapatic demigodlike commie son of a b____ ........Once you get that through your nitro-cellulose soden skewed liberal perspective..........


how does anyone like you get to be a moderator of anything. you aren't moderate and you dont moderate.




Mikey I am with you all the way on this one. One thing, when people can no longer agree to disagree they will result to insults such as you being a moderator.
Targetshootr you come to a gun site and want to talk about an anti-gun Senator running for President and not expect to get an ear full is ludicrous. There is no such think as being on the fence here. You're either Pro-gun or Anti-gun. Make a choice.
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« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2004, 10:20:56 AM »
dont fret about me. i can take whatever's dished out especially playground-bully trash talk.

you probably noticed, we dont get to vote on one issue candidates. a responsible person should consider all the other issues.

if someone is pro-gun but can't be trusted, i ain't voting for him. period. and all the slurs and trash talk in the world wont change that.

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« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2004, 11:24:55 AM »
The 80-20 rule applies here. If you agree with 80 percent of what Bush stands for, then vote for him. That's a pretty good ratio.  What would the ratio be in the case of Kerry?  

The issue of untrustworthiness is anti-Bush rhetoric from the left, whereas "flip-flopping" (i.e., having no integrity) is the anti-Kerry rhetoric from the right.  It's good exercise to pause for a moment regularly to determine whether our opinions are truly our own.
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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2004, 02:17:16 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2004, 01:29:33 PM »
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BUT..BUT.. He has the classic "look" of some of the greats. That long face like that of Jefferson and Lincoln. That alone should make him a good candidate.  :grin:  :o  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:  :grin:


Classic look??? The guy looks like an cheesy, two-bit undertaker! I think an original idea would actually kill him. It is going to suck, big-time, if he actually manages to win the White House, simply because of domestic issues and a periodic downturn in the economy. Same thing happened to George Sr. America & the world needs a strong President and a strong United States, otherwise we're facing complete anarchy. Anybody doubt the Israeli's will go nuclear if a Kerry administration pulls back from the Middle East and they're forced to go it alone? Talk about destabilization? The Russians reportedly are missing something like two hundred tactical nuclear weapons...how difficult would if be for some terrorist organization to come up with one. Who's to say they don't already have one? You sure as heck don't take a page out of Spain's book. Their newly elected Socialist government is intending to pull all 1300 Spanish troops out of Iraq because of the train bombings. Great message to send the Arab world!
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