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Legal Position
« on: May 26, 2012, 05:56:45 AM »
I have an idea for shooting a pistol silohuette  22 match.
I have a T/C and am trying to get a 14" barrel that I will mount a rifle scope on.
The position I want to use is:
I hold the pistol in my right hand.
I take my left hand and grab my right Forearm. and put the pistol in the V of my left elbow
My left arm is at a 90 angle to the ground.
I set up a pistol to do this a while ago and it was a very stable plat form for me.
I know the rules say I need to have my elbows out and away from my body for the match.

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Re: Legal Position
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 08:11:42 AM »
I assume you are talking about shooting from a standing position. If it is a standing category it would be illegal. No part of the arms from the shoulders out may touch. If that position is used in a freestyle category it would be allowed. If you are talking about laying in the prone position, remember that no part of the gun can touch the ground. We flop shooters cut the grip off so we can get our pinkie finger between the grip and the ground. Hope this helps.
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Re: Legal Position
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 02:55:48 AM »
Wow, I am having a hard time imagining what that must look like! Your left hand is holding on to the pistol and it is also resting in the crook of your left elbow? Can you post a picture of this?
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Re: Legal Position
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 11:51:33 AM »
Most who would use what is known as the ''flop''; prone on your belly, support the gun on the back of the left hand/ wrist. Assuming a right handed shooter, the right hand holds the grip but the grip must not be on the ground. You may support the fore-end on the back of your left hand using extended fingers to give proper elevation.  It works well on light recoiling guns and is popular in IHMSA rimfire.  You might see it if you search YouTube for IHMSA silhouette.  A rifle scope is usually elected as it has short eye relief. rp

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Re: Legal Position
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 04:08:31 PM »
I assume you are talking about shooting from a standing position. If it is a standing category it would be illegal. No part of the arms from the shoulders out may touch. If that position is used in a freestyle category it would be allowed. If you are talking about laying in the prone position, remember that no part of the gun can touch the ground. We flop shooters cut the grip off so we can get our pinkie finger between the grip and the ground. Hope this helps.
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Re: Legal Position
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 05:56:20 PM »
For the Production Standing (iron sights) category most would choose a 10'' barrel. The 14'' is already ruled an ''Unlimited'' barrel.  ''Unlimited Standing'' allows for ''any sights''.  A 14'' is tough to hold at arm's length. What is termed the ''taco hold'' is more comfortable. In this the non grip hand supports the barrel in the palm while placing the fingers over the barrel (or covered front sight, or over the body of a scope).  Rifle scopes fit here as the short eye relief complements the hold. 
After a while you get used to the weight being closer to the body. A really good trigger (breaking at or a little under a pound) helps in getting the release at the proper time.  I use a ''shotgun scope'' on the 22Hornet for Field Pistol--any sights, and have a duplicate scope that is used on my 10'' 22lr barrel in Unl-Standing.  If you can hold it you can shoot higher power scopes.
 If you elect the ''taco'' on an open sight gun (usually t/c) you'll find the rear sight is really wide in the notch. Some have gone to a ''peep'' or ''aperture'' set-up. Others use a narrow notch rear sight.  rp