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Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:17:12 AM »
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  Supreme Court upholds key part of Arizona immigration law, strikes down rest    By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 1 hr 1 min ago    Demonstrators stand outside the Supreme Court in Washington, Monday, June 25, 2012. (Evan Vucci/AP)     The Supreme Court upheld a key part of Arizona's tough anti-illegal immigration law in a 5-3 decision on Monday that allows police officers to ask about immigration status during stops. That part of the law, which never went into effect because of court challenges, will now immediately be enforced in Arizona. Other parts of the law, including a provision that made it a state crime for illegal immigrants to seek work, will remain blocked, as the justices affirmed the federal government's supremacy over immigration policy.
Justice Anthony Kennedy, the court's swing vote, wrote the opinion, and was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor. Conservative Justices Antonin Scalia, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas partially dissented, saying the entire law should have been upheld.
In the opinion, Justice Kennedy wrote that the federal government's "power to determine immigration policy is well settled." But he also showed concern for what he described as Arizona's outsize burden in dealing with illegal immigration, seeming to sympathize with their decision to butt in on immigration enforcement. "Arizona bears many of the consequences of unlawful im­migration," he wrote. "Hundreds of thousands of deportable aliens are apprehended in Arizona each year." But, ultimately, the justices found that Arizona can not mete out their own state punishments for federal immigration crimes.
"Arizona may have under­standable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the State may not pursue policies that undermine federal law," Kennedy writes in the opinion's conclusion.
The police immigration checks are allowed, however, because state police would simply flag federal authorities if they find an illegal immigrant.
Nevertheless, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is casting the decision as a "victory" for the state. "I am confident our officers are prepared to carry out this law responsibly and lawfully. Nothing less is acceptable," she said in a statement, adding that officers have been trained not to racially profile in their stops. Meanwhile Erika Andiola, an activist and undocumented immigrant in Arizona, says that the Latino community will not be happy with the decision, as the immigration checks portion of the law was most unpopular with them. "It's another message to the Latino community that if you look brown you're a perfect target for the police," she said.
The Obama administration sued to block Arizona's law, called SB1070, shortly after it passed two years ago, saying it interfered with federal authority over immigration. The law made it a state crime for illegal immigrants to seek work or fail to carry proper immigration papers. It also requires police officers to check immigration status and make warrantless arrests for immigration crimes in some cases. A federal judge prevented those aspects of the law from going into effect, but the law became a lightning rod around the country, sparking boycotts and counter-boycotts and opening up a debate about the nation's illegal immigrant population.
In oral arguments in April, many of the justices seemed deeply skeptical of the government's argument that local police officers would interfere with federal authority over immigration law they began asking people about their immigration status during stops. Though much of the debate around the law has focused on "racial profiling"--whether Hispanic people would be stopped and questioned by police based on their ethnicity--the government did not even mention those words in their case against the law, instead focusing on the federal government's supremacy in immigration matters. Justices repeatedly criticized the government's argument against immigration checks. Even Sonia Sotomayor, part of the court's liberal wing, said she was "terribly confused" by the government's argument against the checks.
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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 04:26:13 AM »
If it's a bad decision for Obama and Holder, it's got to be good for America.
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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 05:22:42 AM »
Sonia Sotomayor is not turning out to be the in the pocket leftist Obama wanted.
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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 10:46:06 AM »
It was none of the feds business. The law has to do with criminals, not immigrants. Who here ever thought that a POTUS would sue several American states for trying to enforce the law against invaders?? Speak up guys. The illegal kenyan should be deported to his country too. I reckon he sees his stance on these invaders as a common courtesy, from one illegal to another. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 05:03:08 PM »
Yup, Oboy panders to the illegal criminal invaders.  Professional courtesy is his way with the criminal invaders; after all, it takes one to know one.

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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 03:05:21 AM »
The law is basically gutted,  and not worth its weight anymore.
Section 6 was thrown out. That was the main crux.
Without section 6 the law for all intensive purposes is now nutered and not worth the paper it was written on. 

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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 04:10:52 AM »
Actually, the Supreme Court let stand the ability of Arizona law enforcement to check the status of suspected illegals, but it's kind of a moot point anyway, because the illegal in the White House will not enforce the law and send the illegals packing.  There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that this country is being run by a communist dick tater and that tater needs to be squashed like a ripe grape.
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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 05:19:35 AM »
The pandering of Illegal Immigrants to flood the country because of greed didn't start with this pitiful excuse of a president, and it won't end with him.The fight against illegal immigration has been going on for a long time and covers many US Presidents.We spend too much time talking about the Presidents, and not doing anything about the sorry do nothing Representatives we send to DC.Until we learn to practice term limits for these criminals, nothing will change for the better.
Check out this bit of history concerning Illegal Immigration.pay special attention to the part when GW was President!Now there was a guy who wanted to end Illegal Immigration..Right? ;) Before anyone calls this a blame it on Bush rant.....NO! I'm just trying to make comparisons between the two. Actually between Obama and most of the Modern day Presidents.To find one that actually tried to control it, you would have to go back to Ike.Praise be to Arizona and other states that want to once again govern themselves without the interference of the Globalist in Washington.


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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 07:48:00 AM »
  Arizona implements immigration law as feds push back    By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News
National Affairs Reporter    Immigrant rights protesters on Monday in Phoenix. (Ross D. Franklin/AP)     Arizona began implementing the piece of its anti-illegal immigration law that survived the Supreme Court's ruling on Monday, requiring police officers to verify immigration status during routine stops if they have a "reasonable" suspicion that someone may be in the country illegally.
Arizona tells police officers to look for specific signs that indicate they should ask for immigration papers when stopping a person. These signals include lack of a license, driving a car with foreign plates, difficulty speaking English and seeming nervous. Officers must be careful not to stop someone for more than a "reasonable" amount of time while verifying his or her status, however, or the inquiry could violate the stopped person's rights. Gov. Jan Brewer says officers have been trained not to racially profile while implementing the new law.
[Related: Scalia blasts Obama's deportation stay]
But Tucson police Chief Roberto Villasenor told the Los Angeles Times he worries his department will be flooded by lawsuits from people who say they were improperly questioned about their status, or held for too long. Under the law, Villasenor estimates that Tucson will make 50,000 additional calls to the federal government each year to verify status. Officers will have to hold people whom they would usually just cite and let go while they verify immigration statuses, he added.
These extra calls will present "operational challenges," an Obama administration official who declined to be named told reporters on Monday. But the federal government has no plans to change how it operates in any way due to the law, he added. "We will not allow a state to dictate our priorities," the official said.
[Slideshow: Arizona immigration protests]
When an Arizona police officer calls to verify a suspect's immigration status, the federal government will decide to hold someone only if the person has committed serious crimes or is a recent or repeat border crosser. An Arizona officer will be forced to let that person go if the federal government doesn't want him or her and if the officer doesn't have a crime to charge the person with.
In a rebuke to Arizona, the Obama administration also ended an agreement Monday that allowed some specially trained local police in the state to enforce immigration laws.
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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 09:07:44 AM »
What would happen if Arizona went ahead and enforced the law in total? Seems as if the Feds don't want to enforce border laws the state would have every right to.
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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 09:16:16 AM »
What would happen if Arizona went ahead and enforced the law in total? Seems as if the Feds don't want to enforce border laws the state would have every right to.

 
RICK. Agreed Sir. Just another thing the feds are meddling with. The only time the feds should be involved is helping the state to enforce the laws when asked. The obamination has REFUSED to help or to obey the laws when asked by several states. Shame on obama, and those who support him. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Supremes uphold only a part of AZ anti invader law.
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 01:08:47 PM »
nw_hunter,

It did not start with GW -- Arizona was still part of Mexico when GW was the President.

George Washington, that is.  ;D ;D

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