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Offline 45-70.gov

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this is new to me
« on: July 10, 2012, 08:04:20 AM »
is there any thing to this????



Marlin Firearms is already closing its doors! They are doing it to us America !

Even if you do not own a gun you need to know this. This needs to be spreadTo all gun owners and sportsman. We cannot rely on the media to inform us ofThese type of matters.

SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING

Who is buying companies, manufacturing guns ??

For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been
Buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are
Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people
Worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companiesIn the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stopSelling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns.

Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by
A company called Cerberus Capital Management.

Guess who controls Cerberus???

GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the Most evil men on this planet who wants to[/size]Restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends.This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media?I would think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive
Insurance)

If you don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some Research. He backedObama with millions of dollars and Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros.
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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 08:13:00 AM »
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2011/10/internet-rumors-about-cerberus,-freedom.aspx?s=cerberus&st=&ps=

Internet Rumors About Cerberus, Freedom Group Are Patently False Posted on October 14, 2011 Recently, an old rumor regarding Cerberus--the private equity firm that owns Freedom group, a holding company that in turn owns a number of firearms manufacturers, including Remington, Marlin, Bushmaster, and DPMS--was in some way tied to George Soros.
This rumor is completely false and baseless.
NRA has had contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time.  The owners and investors involved are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters.
In reality, at no time has George Soros ever been a part of the ownership group of Freedom Group or Cerberus, and as a privately traded corporation, there is no possibility that he will be in the future.
This unsubstantiated rumor has caused a great deal of unnecessary concern for gun owners. NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.
 

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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2012, 08:15:30 AM »
First of all, I would say.... Soros is in it to make money, so do not sweat it.
But no need....


SNOPES to the rescue again... Looks like it ain't so
(whew!)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/freedom.asp
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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2012, 09:31:30 AM »
NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.


If folks did THIS, half of the traffic on GBO would cease to exist.   ;D
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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2012, 09:50:59 AM »
NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.


If folks did THIS, half of the traffic on GBO would cease to exist.   ;D
If there's one thing I've learned from my time here as a moderator it's this:
 
If people can't win using logic they'll just call the other side names.
No, not that.  That's rule 2.
If a given chain mail or internet link supports a member's predisposition they will not bother to concern themselves with it's veracity.
No, not that. That's rule 3.
If an obscure website supports your agenda it's the truth and if it opposes it it's obviously not legitimate.
No, not that.  That's rule 4.
 
OH wait, I know:
If a third party "fact checking" website declares your agenda-based chain email to be untruthful or even flatly false, it is a Communist agenda supporting, pink underwear wearing, feminst, anti-Christian, pro-Muslim, Democrat voting, Obama supporting, piece of propaganda!
 
Oh wait, the NRA said that...  Uh oh...
 
This is only the second one of these today.  Please, can we check these types of things at least briefly before posting them?
 
Oh, and I should add, this is not directed at you 45-70, I do not consider you to be a regular offender of any of the above rules...  This is just a personal frustration with those (and they happen to lie on both sides of the political spectrum) who would rather read something consistent than read something that is true.

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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2012, 10:07:12 AM »
  While I have no info on this subject, I suppose the best indicator of what their intentions are..will be in what they do with the firms they bought up.
   As far as SNOPES, I don't trust them implicitly, since a leftward spin is often noticeable.  After all, they are a Mom & pop operation doing research as best they can.  Likely they asre more attuned to the left..just as I would be attuned to the right, were I to do the same job.
   Just don't accept their pronouncements as un varnished, "graven in stone" truth.
 
   On the other hand, whan the NRA-ILA speaks on the subject, it engenders more confidence.
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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2012, 10:10:29 AM »
When   you   control   the   ammo   ,  you   control   the   guns  .   Get   your    reloading   supplies   stocked  up  while   you   can.

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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2012, 10:17:26 AM »
  This rumor  about Cerebus may just be a distraction, while Hillery and the Obummer do some real & lasting damage..
 
  http://www.infowars.com/obama-seeks-us-congressional-ratification-of-un-global-gun-control-treaty/
 
    Remember, this is a UN sponsored treaty and the sculpture in the photo (at the UN) explains how they feel about our personal arms...that's not a military gun in the photo !
 
   Hillery and the Obummer are ready to sign on July 27..our 2nd amendment may be breathing a "death-rattle" right now..
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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2012, 01:20:19 PM »
besides the consperacy angle   and SOR-OSE


will we still see marlin lever guns????
i sure hope this is bull


it was sad to see the end of winchester levers



when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 02:00:35 PM »
Please, can we check these types of things at least briefly before posting them?

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2. Believe nothing,
3. Double check everything
 
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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 04:47:57 PM »
OLD, OLD, OLD and not true. Besides it's been posted here and shown to be wrong at least a dozen times already.


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Re: this is new to me
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2012, 11:15:06 PM »
  The Cerebus thing may well be SNAFU..   But here is something to be genuinely concerned about;
 
  http://bwcentral.org/2012/07/urgent-obama-hilary-to-sign-un-gun-ban-july-27/
 
   http://lexingtonlibertarian.blogspot.com/2012/05/obama-gives-away-our-sovereignty.html#!/2012/05/obama-gives-away-our-sovereignty.html
 
   Also check out the upcoming "'law of the seas treaty" she is about to sign..so our hard-earned revenues can support welfare checks worldwide.  The acronym for it ..LOST.. is fitting, since it is a loser for the U.S.
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