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Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« on: July 09, 2012, 01:38:14 AM »
http://www.whas11.com/home/Woman-fatally-shot-during--161738675.html
 
 
Police: Woman dies after hug discharges officer's gun   by Associated Press WHAS11.com Posted on July 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM       DETROIT (AP) — Detroit police say a woman was fatally shot when she hugged an off-duty police officer while dancing at a party, causing the officer's service weapon to fire.

Police Sgt. Eren Stephens says the shooting happened at an outdoor social gathering about 12:30 a.m. Sunday.

According to Stephens, the 25-year-old woman "embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidentally discharge."

Stephens says the Detroit officer will remain on administrative duties while authorities investigate the shooting and report their findings to the Wayne County prosecutor.
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2012, 03:11:07 AM »
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2012, 04:05:13 AM »
Very sad. The only positives I see are that it will promp folks to be careful how they are carrying. And... Tharpt it was a cop... Had ccw citizen been involved, antis would have claimed another reason to disarm me... Of course, now they can say, "see, even officers can make mistakes - how do you expect us to trust free men with guns?" or some such.
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2012, 09:56:44 AM »
Sounds like BS to me. I've got at least one of every type of handgun and I don't see how this could happen with a properly holstered gun unless there was a catatstrophic failure. Assume they are using a hip holstered Glock or something similar. Those are famously safe in their action, and so are the major competitors to that type of handgun. What was he carrying, a flintlock with a faulty trigger sear? Was this a kind of under-arm holster where the muzzle rides up and behind? It pretty much had to be because it's the only configuration I can think of where somebody behind can be shot like that. In that case, it was likely a double action revolver. Seems very unlikely that there would have been a discharge from a gun like that.

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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2012, 10:06:35 AM »
I read the story earlier today. All I can figure out is, being off duty, he must have had the gun in a shoulder rig, with the barrel facing backward, not downward. Round in the chamber, no safety if it was a Glock. When she squeezed him, part of the holster caught on the trigger. I seens a video of a hip holster setting off a Glock, when the shooter was putting it back in. Stranger things have happened. Sad in any case. gypsyman
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2012, 02:53:09 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/detroit-woman-...opstories.html

A friendly hug at a Detroit house party proved fatal for a woman after she accidentally discharged an off-duty cop's handgun.
Adaisha Miller, 24, attended a fish fry at the home of an off-duty Detroit police officer on Saturday and, at around midnight, began to hug or dance with the officer from behind and accidentally set off his gun, according to Detroit police chief Ralph Godbee, Jr.
The police department didn't release the name of the officer but said that he has been cooperative with an internal investigation launched in the wake of the shooting and is shocked at what happened.
Godbee said that the officer had been concealing his department-issued .40 caliber Smith and Wesson semiautomatic hand gun in a holster in his waistband when Miller placed her hands on his waist. Godbee indicated that Miller had seemingly touched the gun in some way, causing it to fire. There is no safety switch on the weapon, he said.
"I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying this but for the sake of transparency, it is possible for the trigger to be manipulated with that type of holster," Godbee said. "Typically the barrel is facing down, but the preliminary investigation indicates that there was some manipulation along the officer's waistline that he did not control and subsequently the weapon discharged."
Godbee said that there was no indication from evidence or witnesses that the officer had placed his hand on the weapon. The investigation will include forensic analysis by the Detroit State Police and a medical examiner's report.
"He is very remorseful of the incident and the tragic nature of this young lady losing her life in the manner she did," Godbee said.
Miller's mother, Yolanda McNair, told the Detroit Free Press that she has been told different versions of the events leading up to her daughter's death and can't udnerstand why the officer was armed at his own party.
"The story keeps changing. There's no logical reason," she said. "Why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"
Police department spokeswoman Cassandra Lewis said that the prosecutor's office would decide whether any charges would be pressed in the case.
Amy Driver, a gun safety expert, said that it was "entirely possible" that if someone was placing their hands on the officer's waistband that the weapon could become loose from the holster and then discharge if it were pressed back down toward the holster.
"It sounds like she pulled on his waistband, and if that shifted his waistband, the gun could have come up out of the holster a little bit, and his instinct could be to push the gun back in holster. If something got caught on trigger, it could have fired," she said.
Driver said that investigators would likely find a hole in the side of the officer's pants, where the bullet left the gun and traveled to Miller. 
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2012, 04:26:24 PM »
A guy with a dirty mind might read that news story and come to an interesting conclusion.

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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2012, 04:51:30 PM »
What a crock of bovine excrement. There is a whole nother story that is being covered up it would seem. Ain't no way a gun in a holster on a hip discharged to the rear rather than downward.

Now had it been 1911 in a shoulder holster that held it horizontal with barrel to rear as some do and in Condition One yeah it at least is pointed at her kinda sorta but even so somebody has gotta pull the trigger. It makes no sense to me that she would have been hit by the bullet even in that case other than perhaps a grazing shot to the side assuming she was at least as wide if not wider than the officer.

I'm calling BS on this one. I ain't buying it.


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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2012, 05:50:25 PM »
I agree with GB, I see someone telling stories to cover up something.
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 01:11:46 AM »
Hmmmmm, It has to be S&W's fault!
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 02:28:21 AM »
All we know now is what has been reported.
Any further commentary is irrevelant.
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2012, 02:31:00 AM »
My prediction? The cop is lying and he will get fired. The story does't make sense. Maybe there's a manslaughter case there.

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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2012, 05:29:53 AM »
Well, I agree that they are not telling the whole story, didn't happen that way. A sex game?? Who knows. Unless I missed it I don't remember anybody saying WHERE in her body she was shot. I personally have no use for semi autos with no safety. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 01:59:50 AM »
What a crock of bovine excrement. There is a whole nother story that is being covered up it would seem. Ain't no way a gun in a holster on a hip discharged to the rear rather than downward.

Now had it been 1911 in a shoulder holster that held it horizontal with barrel to rear as some do and in Condition One yeah it at least is pointed at her kinda sorta but even so somebody has gotta pull the trigger. It makes no sense to me that she would have been hit by the bullet even in that case other than perhaps a grazing shot to the side assuming she was at least as wide if not wider than the officer.

I'm calling BS on this one. I ain't buying it.

I agree with GB on this one. I think there is more to this. It just seems way to far fetched, I think someone is covering something up.

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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2012, 03:27:56 AM »
Anyone come forward with the real story on this yet?   I don't buy the hug story for one minute. 
I'ld bet the farm that alcohol and showing off had something to do with it.   

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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2012, 07:05:10 AM »
Don't see how jewelry or clothing could have pulled the trigger if the gun was properly holstered.   The M&P has a jointed trigger similar to a Glock which means the trigger has to be fully engaged in order to work and the pull weight on a stock M&P is approx. 6.5lbs.   
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Re: Woman dies after hugging officer and his gun goes off.
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2012, 08:51:32 AM »
Its probably a case of another dumb cop not knowing how to handle his weapon properly. Unless their was something fishy about the story? What the heck did he have to have a loaded round in the chamber when people were partying and dancing in such?