Author Topic: What is the difference between recievers?  (Read 1079 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tom H.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 176
What is the difference between recievers?
« on: February 05, 2004, 12:08:30 PM »
What is the difference between the rifle reciever and the shotgun reciever?

Curious to know.

Thanks
Tom

Offline John Traveler

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1359
H&R
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 12:35:57 PM »
H&R has made single-shot break open shotguns and low-power rifles for several generations.  The latest were/are the M158 "Topper" series.  All of these older guns used cast iron receivers and are intended for shotshell and low-power rifle calibers.

As I understand it, the NEF and H&R rifle receivers are made from heat-treated steel, and are much thicker in the breech area.  Therefore, they are strong enough to hold respectable high-rifle catridges.

HTH
John
John Traveler

Offline Tom H.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 176
What is the difference between recievers?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2004, 02:07:44 AM »
Thanks John.

I picked up an NEF as a project gun and I'd like to know its limitations before I put any major time into it.
I'm definately picking up one of the slug barrels (or 2) but was also thinking about the prospect of a 45-70 or a 357 max on the shotgun receiver.
Would I have to bush the firing pin, etc.

Of course I could have just bought the rifle version.

 

Tom

Offline BIGBOREFAN

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 546
What is the difference between recievers?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2004, 02:12:50 AM »
Tom H H&R will not put a rifle barrel on your shotgun receiver. The only way to get a rifle barrel is to send in a rifle receiver. The firing pin between the two are the same. You may look around and find a seperate barrel for sale, but it still might not lock up tight on your receiver.


BBF
LETS GO STEELER'S. BIG BEN JUST KEEPS ON TICKEN. STEELER'S IN JACKSONVILLE THIS YEAR!

Offline John Traveler

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1359
rifle barrel on shotgun receiver
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2004, 05:59:39 AM »
I might add that an acquaintance of mine made a .223 Remington chamber sleeve for a break-open 20 gauge shotgun and fired it against my advice.

A few dozen rounds later, the .223 case head blew a neat hole right through the breechface.  It looked like it was done with a 3/8" punch!!  Luckily the shooter was not hurt.  Object lesson:  old shotgun receivers were never designed for high-intensity rifle cartridge pressures!

I don't recall the brand name, but it was an old single-barrel shotgun.
John Traveler

Offline John Traveler

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1359
shotgun vs rifle receivers
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2004, 06:07:20 AM »
Tom,

NEF states that receivers made before a specified serial number are NOT suitable for fitting with rifle barrels.

I don't recall the s/n breakpoint, but suspect that it has to do with a change in materials and/or manufacturing methods.  a change from cast iron to investment cast alloy steel for example.  As we know, Ruger made it's great reputation on investment cast steel receivers and major parts  for almost all of it's product line (bolt action and single-shot centerfire, shotguns, revolvers, pistols, etc).

HTH
John
John Traveler

Offline Tom H.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 176
What is the difference between recievers?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2004, 10:19:59 AM »
...Exactly why I posted here.

I knew that NEF would only put a rifle barrel on a rifle reciever, just didn't know the particulars.  I do kow that if I pick up a rifle reciever I won't have to worry about anything.  

Thanks for the advice and the info. It's more than appreciated.

Tom