Author Topic: Another Folding stock for a Handi (Read 3164 times)

ibgp3 · « **on:** June 10, 2012, 08:01:17 AM »

Mossberg shotgun hand grip, Tippman folder.
Cut the round part off of the front of the folder, and fit the hand grip to the receiver and the folder. I had to modify a hardware store bolt to fit flush in the folder slot. The shotgun grip makes it feel more solid.

Couger · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2012, 09:36:02 AM »

I like it!

But remeber the idjits at F-troop might not.
So be sure not to "exceed" their limits on shortness and compactness.

canon6 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2012, 11:52:49 AM »

I flat love it.What kind of modifications to the bolt were necessary?

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tom548 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2012, 01:23:16 PM »

When I did a search for Tippman foldin stock all I cam up with was for paint ball guns. Do you have a location to see spec. on this stock. Thanks Tom

ibgp3 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:19:09 PM »

Quote from: canon6 on June 10, 2012, 11:52:49 AM

What kind of modifications to the bolt were necessary? ?

I chucked up the bolt in my mini-lathe (electric drill),
.....got out my high speed grinder (dremel),
...and beveled the head so it looks like a big screw.
Then I put a blade on the dremel and cut a couple of slots for a screw driver.

a drawing

ibgp3 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:25:51 PM »

Quote from: tom548 on June 10, 2012, 01:23:16 PM

When I did a search for Tippman folding stock all I came up with was for paint ball guns. Do you have a location to see spec. on this stock. Thanks Tom

The round part I cut off of the front is what fits into the paintball gun.
Specs? no, $20 on eBay.

ibgp3 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:47:48 PM »

These are on eBay from $75 up.

ATI MOSSBERG 500 6 POSITION SIDE FOLDING TACTICAL STOCK
They still have to be fitted to the receiver,
......but there is no paintball in their name.

I bought one, I'll try it.

......maybe it will suit the 300BLK well enough that ATI will make them for the Handi!

tom548 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2012, 02:32:16 AM »

How strong does the tippman stock seem to be, do you think it would hold up to say a .223 or a .357 . I like the design of the tippman better, but wounder how it will handle the kick of a rifle.

ibgp3 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2012, 03:00:02 AM »

Quote from: tom548 on June 11, 2012, 02:32:16 AM

How strong does the tippman stock seem to be, do you think it would hold up to say a .223 or a .357 . I like the design of the tippman better, but wounder how it will handle the kick of a rifle.

I think the Tippman will take more kick than I want to.
I guess this thread isn't done until I put a 45/70 on it and test it out.

ibgp3 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2012, 08:50:16 AM »

Well I was headed for the range to test some loads for a 6.5 MC.
I took the Choate Varmint off and put the Tippman on.

The range guys had to measure it before they would let me shoot it.
That's a 5 round group, and I called the flyer before I looked.
The zero is left over from the Choate, those are the first 5 rounds with the Tippman on it.

I still have to try it with the 45/70, but it works with this one.

garbhead · « **Reply #10 on:** June 11, 2012, 10:11:37 AM »

Very cool..looks like it also could be fired in the folded position....which model is this?

I found 4

X7, 98, A5,Spyder

ibgp3 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2012, 10:25:28 AM »

This is the Tippman 98,
.....and it definitely cannot be fired folded

ibgp3 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:22:54 AM »

Quote from: ibgp3 on June 10, 2012, 02:47:48 PM

These are on eBay from $75 up.
ATI MOSSBERG 500 6 POSITION SIDE FOLDING TACTICAL STOCK
They still have to be fitted to the receiver,
......but there is no paintball in their name.
I bought one, I'll try it.
......maybe it will suit the 300BLK well enough that ATI will make them for the Handi!

I got this in today,
It is very solid,
and it looks like it may just bolt on.

wganz · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2012, 06:35:36 AM »

Quote from: ibgp3 on June 11, 2012, 08:50:16 AM

The range guys had to measure it before they would let me shoot it.

As long as the barrel was > 16" and the OAL > 26" with the perma-attached folding stock extended, then you're F-Troop OK.
Curious if they knew what the regs when measuring?

ibgp3 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 13, 2012, 06:51:05 AM »

It has an 18" barrel, but they kept talking about the stock on my pistol.

Garbhead bothered me more than the guys at the range when he commented about shooting it folded. That seems like a surefire way to get an idiot mark from the scope, but that would mean it has to be 26" folded.

canon6 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 13, 2012, 06:51:34 AM »

ibgp3, what is a 6.5MC?

Doug

ibgp3 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2012, 07:06:11 AM »

Quote from: canon6 on June 13, 2012, 06:51:34 AM

ibgp3, what is a 6.5MC? Doug

6.5MC is almost 6.5TCU rimmed,
the 6.5TCU is shortened a tenth of an inch so it can be formed from Maxi-brass.

Some fire-forming loads I took a picture of(with 22Jet.)

These four are on my loading bench:

From the left:
6×45mm - Case capacity, 26.9 grains of water
6.5MC - Case capacity, 25.7 grains of water
6.5 Grendel Case capacity is 35.0 grains of water
300BLK - Case capacity, 25.1 grains of water
(The capacities are from the net, I didn't measure them)

ibgp3 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2012, 06:56:25 AM »

Quote from: ibgp3 on June 13, 2012, 04:22:54 AM

Quote from: ibgp3 on June 10, 2012, 02:47:48 PM

These are on eBay from $75 up.
ATI MOSSBERG 500 6 POSITION SIDE FOLDING TACTICAL STOCK
They still have to be fitted to the receiver,
......but there is no paintball in their name.
I bought one, I'll try it.
......maybe it will suit the 300BLK well enough that ATI will make them for the Handi!
I got this in today,
It is very solid,
and it looks like it may just bolt on.

New lowest price is $55.
They don't just bolt on, it took some fitting.
...but! it is solid. If I wanted a folder on a 45-70 I would use one of these.
Now all I need is the 300BLK to put it on.

danwolla · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2012, 05:25:14 PM »

I like the look of the mossberg folder a lot!! I have some questions. fitting was just grind the face of the stock to match the back of the reciever? Does the stock bolt fit fine, Longer? Shorter? how is the height for using your scope? Any further comments on your experience with it so far are greatly appreciated.

ibgp3 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:09:17 PM »

Quote from: danwolla on July 23, 2012, 05:25:14 PM

fitting was just grind the face of the stock to match the back of the receiver?

The stock is a heavy black plastic.
I used a blade on a dremel
...and mostly cut a slot for the edge of the back of the receiver to fit into.
It's an easy material to work, but this is the third one like it I have done.
(There is a learning curve)

Quote from: danwolla on July 23, 2012, 05:25:14 PM

Does the stock bolt fit fine, Longer? Shorter?

I used an older screw-type stock bolt that was a perfect fit.
A hex-head would have to be ground much smaller and have a slot or 2 cut for a screw-driver.

Quote from: danwolla on July 23, 2012, 05:25:14 PM

how is the height for using your scope?

It comes with an adjustable cheek-piece that I haven't installed.
The adjustable cheek-piece may be perfect for a Handi since different barrels might call for different heights.
The cheek piece seemed OK for this set-up.

Quote from: danwolla on July 23, 2012, 05:25:14 PM

Any further comments on your experience with it so far are greatly appreciated.

My plan is for this to go on my 300BLK (that I don't have yet.)
That will be about 2 inches less barrel and a different scope.
I only set this up to test.
I would comment that people who should know better saw a pistol with a stock.
I would not take it to a public range again.

tykempster · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2012, 03:50:45 AM »

This would be very cool with a SBR, say 338 Whisper?

ibgp3 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:41:13 AM »

I am not a big fan of bureaucrats.
I have to have a drivers license and plates on my truck,
........but I don't have to have an SBR,
........or a suppresor,
........or a full auto.
So that is paperwork and regs I can skip, (and toys I can do without.)

tykempster · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2012, 04:25:15 PM »

I agree with the paperwork and regulations sucking, BUT, a suppressor takes one day of shooting with to fall in love.

ibgp3 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2012, 10:22:59 PM »

Perhaps I understated my dislike for regs and paperwork.

If it took a federal tax stamp to drive a pick-up truck
....I would have a bus pass and a bicycle.

ratdog · « **Reply #24 on:** July 26, 2012, 08:42:05 AM »

what type of fore end did you use for your gun the handy one doesn't look as cool nice job .

ibgp3 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:09:00 AM »

Thanks for the nice words.

That fore end is the one that comes with the ATI collapsible stock.