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Eastern deer rifle
« on: July 24, 2012, 03:11:16 PM »
My cousin has invited me to go to Tenn. to hunt with him on his property and I am trying to make up my mind which rifle to take.  I am very tempted to take my 45-70 handy with me, what do you guys think?
 

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 03:31:58 PM »
Its hard to go wrong with the classic 45-70!!

I think its a great all around choice for eastern deer big game hunting.

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2012, 03:53:19 PM »
I hunt here in Ky, usually with a 45-70 but also with a 44 mag rifle.  But I am almost always in the woods.  There are plenty of areas where a 270 is called for.  Plenty of fields that are hundreds are yards across.  In fact, deer stands are common on the borders of woods and fields.  You might have a 300 yard shot across a soybean field or a 20 yard shot across a thicket. 

Figure out where you will be hunting and what shots you might have.  Or, just limit yourself to 150 yards and take the 45-70. 

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 04:11:58 PM »
I would say yes on the 45/70, it is hard to beat overall.
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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 04:12:22 PM »

 Or, just limit yourself to 150 yards and take the 45-70.

PETER!  OH PETER!  Where is that man...  ::)

 He will have a word or three about this I am sure!  :o ::) ;)

The 45-70 may appear to be limited to close range, but doing so YOU are the limiting factor.. NOT the 45-70. ;)

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 04:55:15 PM »
Yeah, ask Quigley ;)
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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 04:56:01 PM »
Thanks guys, my cousin said that a 100 yard shot is a long shot on his property so I think I will be ok.  I have been using 405 grn cast WW that I cast and reloaded myself.  They are surprisingly accurate at 100 yards.
 

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 05:08:23 PM »
When I lived in TN most of my hunting was done with a muzzleloader.
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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 05:10:13 PM »
I am thinking about that too, I have a 50 cal. huntsman that needs to be hunted with.
 

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 05:28:14 PM »
Quigley shot a 45-120 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 05:54:56 PM »
There is a great variation in land here in TN.  We have everything from wide open beanfields to mountainous terrain where you can see for miles.  Bottomland choked with briars and honeysuckle to cut over forest on large timber company tracts that you can barely see 10 feet in front of you, much less find a shooting lane.  If your cousin says 100 yards is the usual shot, I think as long as your comfortable with the 45-70 it should be ok.  It would be alot better than using something you were unfamiliar with.  I think the key would be to practice at several different ranges to be prepared.  There is several public hunting opportunities here, and you might even get invited to another piece of property that is vastly different.    The TVA has high power lines running all over the countryside, so you never know when you might run into a piece of property that is really thick with a wide clearcut through the middle of it for the high power lines.  Likewise you may hunt a big beanfield where the only way you can get a jump on the deer is to get into a small patch of woods where they congregate.
 
Depending on the time you come, I think I would tell you to bring your muzzleloader too!  It opens up more time and opportunity here, although you need a separate tag for muzzleloader.  Talk to your cousin, he will tell you all about it.
 
Here are a few examples of what you can expect.  The first three (only first two are mine) are from North West TN.  The last one is from federal government land that is open to the public on a limited basis.     

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 06:51:58 PM »
I'm impressed BW and thanks for the info!

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 09:18:53 PM »
Hey, CW, I'm here. 

Clodhopper, you've got time.  Take your .45-70 out and learn it.  It is NOT just a 100 - 150 yard gun.  Work with it.  You can surely and ethically take a deer across a 300 yard bean field.  It's just knowing where you're bullet's going to be at various ranges.  Some folks use a MilDot or BDC scope.  I don't.  It's very much like instinctively shooting a long bow.  The guys who buy a box of ammo every 15 or 20 years (whether they need it or not) will never do it.  My longest bang flop deer kill to date with my .45-70 was only a modest 220 yards.

Good luck and enjoy the hunt.

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 04:05:04 AM »
Well Clod, I dunno. What else ya got? I go thru this myself every year, what to take? Decisions, decisions. The 45-70 will surely do the job if you hold up your end, I've seen it make instant kills, but what about meat damage?. Overkill? Or not? There's no doubt a flatter shooting cartridge helps make a clean shot easier.

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 05:10:05 AM »
Well Clod, I dunno. What else ya got? I go thru this myself every year, what to take? Decisions, decisions. The 45-70 will surely do the job if you hold up your end, I've seen it make instant kills, but what about meat damage?. Overkill? Or not? There's no doubt a flatter shooting cartridge helps make a clean shot easier.

That's one of the great things about the 45/70.... Ol timers said you could eat right up to the bullet hole.

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Re: Eastern deer rifle
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 09:55:40 AM »
Thanks for all the great info guys, I've really got the hankering to use the 45-70 so I think that may be the one.  I kinda like the idea of making meat with rounds that I made myself, have been doing it for years so 405 grain wheel weights it is.  I have taken deer with muzzle loaders including 50 and 54 caliber and CW is right, the meat damage is much less with the big/slow chunks of lead than my 30-06 or my 7-08.  Back when my eyesight wasn't so fuzzy I could make 200 yard, iron sight, shots with my 54 cal. all day but those days are past.  I have installed a little 4X scope on the 45-70 and it works for me.