45-70 recoil?

[Hooker]

You had me worried I thought you were trying to get rid of her.

Pat

[steg]

I have a Ruger #3 in 45/70, It was fire around six rounds, put it away and shoot something else, but by then my shoulder was so sore it just wasn't fun anymore. I picked up an extra stock and had a Limbsaver pad put on it, I wanted to keep the original stock in factory condition, anyway, now the rifle just sort of bounces off my shoulder. the only drawback that I could find with it is the finish is terrible, kind of like sanding a sponge, but to make the gun fun to shoot, it's worth it....................................steg

[BBF]

 
 her load is 55 gr. IMR3031  with a 350gr. round nose. she thinks the recoil is just fine. 

Your wife appears to be a real sesitive type person.
 
I use( on rare occasion) 48 gr of RL-7 with that bullet out of a Handi and really don't like the results on my shoulder.

[victorcharlie]

56 grains of 3031 and a Remington 300 grain JHP is a very accurate load in my 1895 Marlin.  This load shoots about an inch and a half at 100 yards.

Also, the scope, a Leupold VXIII 1.75 x 6, has cut me twice off the bench, both times using a very light hold going for that tight group.

It's a thumper.

[Ranger J]

I started out loading rem 300 HPs over Re #7 at Marlin level and found that I needed to watch the bridge of my nose when shooting my scoped gun at the range.   Had my hat knocked off a couple of times but lost no blood.  What this load did to deer was not pretty.  Switched to Varget at Trapdoor levels and it is much more pleasant for me but still relatively unpleasant for deer.  I shoot 405 gr SP in my Handi over 2400 and they are pussycats.  Trailboss loads even more so even though deer might be able to outrun them.

RJ

[BBF]

 
 
 
 
 
 
.......................  I shoot 405 gr SP in my Handi over 2400 and they are pussycats.  Trailboss loads even more so even though deer might be able to outrun them.

 
The 2400 with 405 Rems are my favorite load.
 
The TB loads need to be used closeup. Deer can definitely pull away from those loads at longer range

[piero]

Shot a 1895 w/rem 405's and it kicked less than my 336 in 30-30... I know it makes no sence but it's true.

[Happy]

Need some comparisons on 45-70 recoil in a guide gun as I have had shoulder repairs a couple years back and would still really like to get one but not sure if I'm up to it. Thanks for any input.

Put a good recoil pad on it and wrap the front part of the lever with leather lacing , Then your ready to go .
Of course you should pull the stock back into the shoulder , or it will bite ya !!
My wife has no problem with the guide gun , but would rather just shoot her odd 6 ruger bolt .

[GH1]

Since my last reply I've acquired a synthetic stock Handi in 45-70. I use 405 gr cast bullets in  shortened LeverEvolution cases (gun show find, long story), with 30 gr AA5744.
Even with the padded stock I find the recoil to be a little more sever than that of my Mosin with surplus loads.
GH1

[ceadersavage2]

Try a limb savor, heard a rubber tong shoe works great under a shirt cost about 3.00 But myself the limb savor the way to go

[1895gunner]

You ‘all must be sensitive..
 
1895M
1895M
1895G
1895GS
444P
 

 
Load what you can stand and enjoy!
 
1895gunner

[ejpaul1]

I'd say that this is evidence of obsessive compulsion of the best kind! Either your single, or rich and married. Or there is married and poor but your wife sports alot of finger bling,,,,,,,

[sturgeonhunter]

nice collection

[BBF]

Since my last reply I've acquired a synthetic stock Handi in 45-70..................
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I have two with synthetic stock. You have a nice cavity into which you can put extra weight.
Both of mine have clean dry sand packaged into a denim bag. It will reduce free recoil noticeably.

[Ranch13]

You should be able to shoot any of the factory loads, or reloads at trapdoor levels without much recoil problem at all(there's nothing that walks this content that won't die from a good hit with those loads). And if those are a problem a limbsaver recoil pad will help tame that down a good bit, or one of the Shooters Friends slip on recoil pads.
 

[Flynmoose]

I thought I would have to give up my 45-70s due to arthritis in my shoulders. A friend brought some TrailBoss loads when he came for a visit. They were loaded with 405 Gr. Laser Cast bullets. I can keep my 45-70s, in fact just bought another one, a Ruger #1s, I love it! They are very mild to shoot, but really move a swinging steel target.
FM

[1895gunner]

I love my Marlin big bores.. Since I reload I play with all kinds of loads. Today I was shooting some nice 45/70 gas checked 350gr lead over H4198. I have to say that sometimes it just amazes me as to what you can do with this cartridge. From mouse to moose or bigger.
 
I typically don't load or shoot full-house reloads but sometimes I mix em in just to remind myself what this rifle cartridge is capable of.
 
Ten shot group at 100 yards off the bench (no lead sled) this morning. The two fliers were my fault not the round. Using a 1.5 X 4.5 Bushnell.
 

 
 
With this rifle:
 

 

1895gunner

[Stuart C.]

1895,
Very nice.
Do you ever load any bp rounds for kicks? What do they like?

[BBF]

Stuart I have.
They are a lot more push then the TB loads.
 
Remember the Cav lads complained that the original military loads of 70 gr(Volume) were to harsh fron a horse's back. Uncle Sam dialed it back to 55 gr for them.

[Ranch13]

Cavalry troopers never fired from their horses backs. They fought from the ground.The 45 sidearms and sabers were the weapons to be used from their mounts.
While there was complaint of the 70 gr load having excessive recoil in the 7 lb carbine, the real reason the carbine load was dropped to 55 grs was cost savings. It still gave the affective range of 660 yds in the carbine, which was much further than cavalry troops were expected to enguage from , and saved 15 grs per round of powder, saving the Military Dept that much money for every round produced.

[BBF]

Dang it, I got taken by Hollywood again or it was them warlike Injun's protecting their land that fired  rifles from the horses.
 
That 600+ yard  must be for indirect fire.

[pab1]

If you're concerned for your shoulder but want some 45-70 WHOMP, get yourself a 45-70 Thompson Contender pistol with a 12 or 14 inch barrel. 
 Even at trapdoor range loads, you can achieve 1600 fps with 300 grain bullets

I agree, they are much easier in the recoil department. I get 1900 fps with 300 gr bullets out of a 12" barrel and thats only a mid-range "Trapdoor" charge of H4198. Very accurate too. Not a load you want to shoot all day but definitely much less felt recoil than the same load in my 1895.

[ratdog]

405 grain bullet and trail boss you can shoot these all day. lace on recoil pad even better.