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Keep an eye on this one.
« on: July 30, 2012, 12:23:28 PM »
It could be the first step. Hopefully this one won't make it or mail order ammo will be a thing of the past.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-gives-cool-welcome-bill-restricting-online-182934423.html



 The White House gave a cool welcome on Monday to Democratic legislation that would effectively ban online or mail-order purchases of ammunition in the aftermath of the mass shooting at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater.

"I haven't seen the specific piece of legislation that has been offered up today," spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters at the daily press briefing. "But as that and other pieces of legislation make their way through the legislative process, we'll evaluate them."
The proposal, crafted by Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg and Democratic Representative Carolyn McCarthy, aims to restrict the ability of Americans to buy unlimited quantities of ammunition over the Internet, or by mail order, anonymously.

President Barack Obama has called for a common sense response to the slaughter in Aurora. But the White House has played down his appetite for new legislation as opposed to tightening or toughening existing measures—such as background checks—to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals or the mentally ill. And the president has underlined his support for the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

"He believes in the second amendment of the constitution, in the right to bear arms," Earnest said again Monday.  "But he also believes that we should take robust steps, within existing law, to ensure that guns don't fall in the hands of criminals or others who shouldn't have them.

The new legislation, dubbed the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act,  rests on four pillars, according to Lautenberg's office:
   It requires anyone selling ammunition to be a licensed dealer.
   It requires ammunition buyers who are not licensed dealers to present photo identification at the time of purchase, effectively banning the online or
      mail order purchase of ammo by regular civilians.
   It requires licensed ammunition dealers to maintain records of the sale of ammunition.
   It requires licensed ammunition dealers to report the sale of more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person within any five
      consecutive business days.
 

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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 03:28:28 PM »
Lautenberg and McCarthy, the usual suspects. >:(
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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 03:43:14 PM »
Wow!  If they were to pass this law, that means that no criminal would be able to buy over 999 rounds at a time.  That way crazy people couldn't shoot up a theater..........
 
How about requireing psychologists and psychiatrists to report to the feds any person who is crazy as a loon and shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun?  That way they could buy them off the street like the gang bangers and felons do.
 
I get tired of this endless stupid debate.  That kid broke a whole buncha' laws already...a few more wouldn't have mattered.
 
How about requireing that civilians take markmanship classes and be required to buy a gun and carry it with them to the theater?
 
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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 05:36:17 PM »
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How about requireing that civilians take markmanship classes and be required to buy a gun and carry it with them to the theater?

I could support a law like that especially if they grandfather in old farts like me that have been shooting and hunting for the last 55+ years and competed actively with handgun, rifle and shotgun for many years.

Oh wait I already take one with me where ever I go.


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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 09:51:05 AM »
A young guy might fight with 'ya, but an old guy will just kill you.  Don't mess around with the old farts. 
 
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2012, 07:20:57 AM »
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Oh wait I already take one with me where ever I go.

 
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 07:35:47 AM »
So they require a photo ID that Millions of illegals get for about 50 bucks while a credit card sale with tracking is not good enough to ID the buyer ? And some on line dealers require a dri lic to buy , Georga Arms keeps you on file if you buy from them.
I must be missing something here............
 
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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 09:40:28 AM »
So they require a photo ID that Millions of illegals get for about 50 bucks while a credit card sale with tracking is not good enough to ID the buyer ? And some on line dealers require a dri lic to buy , Georga Arms keeps you on file if you buy from them.
I must be missing something here............
 

You're not missing anything.  They just keep looking for loopholes to the 2nd amendment. 
 
If the guy had waited until the movie was over and driven a Buick through the departing crowd, they wouldn't be trying to outlaw Buicks....just saying....
 
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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 04:09:37 PM »
So they require a photo ID that Millions of illegals get for about 50 bucks while a credit card sale with tracking is not good enough to ID the buyer ? And some on line dealers require a dri lic to buy , Georga Arms keeps you on file if you buy from them.
I must be missing something here............
 

You're not missing anything.  They just keep looking for loopholes to the 2nd amendment. 
 
If the guy had waited until the movie was over and driven a Buick through the departing crowd, they wouldn't be trying to outlaw Buicks....just saying....
 
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Re: Keep an eye on this one.
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2012, 06:08:30 AM »

The very same people who want buyers of ammo to provide a photo ID yell discrimination when any state requires a photo ID for voting in an election. 

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2012, 06:09:22 AM »
AGENDA !
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