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Offline Jason F

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38-55 headed to JES
« on: August 09, 2012, 01:11:20 PM »
Sending my 38-55 to jes to get rebored to 405 JES.  Anyone ever seen or shot one. It is a shortened 444 necked down
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 02:49:54 PM »
Why not go with the 405 Winchester?
 
 
 
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 02:56:28 PM »
I have a bunch of 444 brass to use. Its something out of the ordinary. Kind of like my 300 aac blackout rimmed that will be in the mail to me tomorrow.  ;D ;D
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 03:50:12 PM »
Makes sense. :)
Are dies included with the rebore or are they available?
Should make for a very versatile big game cartridge.
Keep us in the loop with this one... it's interesting for sure.
 
 
 
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2012, 03:53:34 PM »
Dies, rebore, and everything 300 bucks
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 01:26:31 AM »
Ya know, you guys gotta stop doin dis ta me ::)   I like it ;D   Jason, do you have anything on ballistics?  Please keep me posted.

Thanks,

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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 05:41:20 AM »
Jason, Midsouth has a heck of a buy on primed 405 Win Roosevelt nickle brass, if it's not too late to change your mind!  ;D  I bought a bag, it looks like any other new brass, I couldn't find any significant blemishes that new brass doesn't normally have.

The 405 Win will do 2500fps with 300gr bullets in the 28" barrel, so the 405 JES will likely lag a bit behind due to the smaller 444 Marlin case, 405 Win case capacity is 73.8gr compared to 67.2gr for the 444.


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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012, 06:27:34 AM »
Here'e a discussion with case drawing of the 405 JES at MO, apparently will push 300gr bullets 2000fps in a levergun.

Tim

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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 06:30:24 AM »
Its not to late. I am not sending it till next week.
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2012, 07:55:08 AM »
Quote from: Jason F on August 10, 2012, 06:30:24 AM
Its not to late. I am not sending it till next week.

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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2012, 06:24:40 AM »
are the 38-55 barrels getting rare? if its goin to be re bored wouldn't it be better to just use a 30-06 or 270 or 243 barrel? i thought some people were having trouble finding the 38-55? seems like you might be better off making a trade first?
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2012, 06:33:05 AM »
The 38-55TM and 45-70 BC are the only Handi options if you want a 28" barrel.  I think a 405 Big Medicine (either the 405JES or the real McCoy 405Win) with a 28" barrel would trump a 38-55 anyday.  Ya'll can apply tar and feathers at your leisure. ::)   I hope gcrank1 doesn't read this. ;D
 
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2012, 06:40:22 AM »
It's probly mostly the bbl length that is needed. Kurt
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2012, 12:11:30 PM »
Quote from: bikerbeans on August 11, 2012, 06:33:05 AM
The 38-55TM and 45-70 BC are the only Handi options if you want a 28" barrel.  I think a 405 Big Medicine (either the 405JES or the real McCoy 405Win) with a 28" barrel would trump a 38-55 anyday.  Ya'll can apply tar and feathers at your leisure. ::)   I hope gcrank1 doesn't read this. ;D
 
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I'm with ya on this one BB. I'd MUCH rather have a 405 than a 38-55. If it was good enough for 'ol Teddy it's good enough for me. ;)
 
 
 
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 05:52:33 AM »
Well BB........... :o
As much as I like my two 38-55s, it is just a puny little cartridge, isnt it.
Would the rather plentiful 26" 25-06 barrel work for this or be too skinny to bore that big? Those 2" wont make much diff in performance if it would work. The one thing I can say for sure about using the 38-55 barrel it it will certainly take care of the original chambering often tight neck situation, but it would be a pure shame to do it to one that has the right neck dimensions!
Just keep using up those 38-55 barrels, it will make mine more 'valuable'  ;) .
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 04:20:55 PM »
From my reading about paper patched bullets, I've come to suspect the tight 38-55 chamber is historically correct for old style paper patched bullets, just under bore size soft lead bullet with the patching bring it up to bore size.
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Re: 38-55 headed to JES
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2012, 02:29:38 AM »
I shoot 300 gr. cast bullets out of my 444P and get 1950 fps. And a healthy whack on the shoulder too.
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