pastortom, remember, a .44 isn't that far from being 1/2''. I always figured that I didn't need much expansion, more penetration than anything. And, a flat nose, or hard cast bullet, at 1000 to 1100fps will just about go thru anything on this continent. And, a 240 or 280gr. bullet at that velocity isn't going to be to hard on the shoulder. gypsyman