Author Topic: G2 recoil vs Revolver (Read 504 times)

osceola · « **on:** February 09, 2004, 12:56:34 PM »

I've been looking at the G2 as well as the Encore for hunting. How does the G2 in 30-30 or 45/70 compare to a 44 mag SRH or a Taurus 454 RB? What about the larger Encore rounds? Had a person tell me that the configuration of the trigger guard/lever was something to be reckoned with and recoil was much more than the revolver examples listed. Unfortunately I don't know of any that I could try and wouldn't it be great if there was such a thing as a rental. Before I launch into this endeavor I would appreciate experienced input. Thanks in advance.

MePlat · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2004, 01:16:43 PM »

An Encore in 45/70 can fire 550 gr cast at close to 1500 fps from 15 inches. Recoil with an unbraked taperd barrel is sometning that most don't want to experience more than once.
The trigger guard/ lever configuration is not a problem unless you don't know how to hold the gun. If you don't you will quickly learn.
The Encore in 45/70 will be more than enough but it needs a brake and a bull barrel to keep recoil down unless you intend to play with piddling loads.
Even piddling loads in a 45/70 will take most game that most will hunt.

Questor · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2004, 03:51:24 AM »

The original contender with a 10" 44 magnum barrel has a particularly vicious recoil unless pachmayr grip and foreend is added to the gun.

MePlat · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2004, 05:04:33 AM »

I don't know about the original 44 mag in the Contender but with an Encore in 45/70 with top loads it is a severe surprize when one squeezes off a round.
On that gun with 500 gr at 1600 or 550 at 1500 with an unbraked tapered barrel I would venture 2 to 3 shots are all most can take and still do good shooting.I am not a stranger to heavy recoil and about 7 or 8 is all I care to turn loose at a session.

teamnelson · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2004, 06:35:04 AM »

Actual Recoil is a factor of the weight of the gun and bullet specs. Assuming the same ammunition, you'd have to factor in the following:

Ruger SBH .44 w/7.5" Barrel, 3lbs. 1oz.
Ruger SBH .44 w/10.5" Barrel, 3lbs. 7oz.
TC G2 .44 w/12" Barrel, 3lbs. 8oz.
TC Encore .44 w/10" Barrel, 4lbs.

Taurus RB .454 w/6.5" Barrel, 3lbs. 5oz.
Taurus RB .454 w/8.4" Barrel, 3lbs. 14.5oz.
TC Encore .454 w/10" Barrel, 4lbs.

Heavier gun typically translates into reduced actual recoil, so actual recoil would be less on a G2 or Encore when compared to the SBH or RB.

Felt recoil is another matter. I shoot an SBH .44 w/7.5" Barrel and Bisley frame for the IHMSA Big Bore; 40 rounds. Wood grips did okay last time, but Hogues would be nicer. Some folks couldn't make it through 40 rounds of .44; that's entirely up to you.

It depends on what your going to hunt, and how far out you feel comfortable taking a shot. I think an Encore with a 10" .44 would be an ideal set up for Deer sized game and smaller, out to 100yds. 45/70 would also be good to the same range, for Jeep sized game and smaller, but in anything without a buttstock would detract from the moment for me. :grin:

Bullseye · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2004, 12:40:26 PM »

The 10" 44 mag barrel is a funny item. It seems people either think the recoil is very bad or not that bad. I shoot one with a factory grip and no scope for additional weight and do not think it is that bad. I have seen many post over the months on this subject and it seems to be one way or the other, no middle ground. Intersting, guess it is just how each of us perceives recoil.

teamnelson · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2004, 04:22:59 AM »

Quote from: Questor

The original contender with a 10" 44 magnum barrel has a particularly vicious recoil unless pachmayr grip and foreend is added to the gun.

Is the pachmayr forend heavier than walnut?

teamnelson · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2004, 04:27:42 AM »

Quote from: Bullseye

The 10" 44 mag barrel is a funny item. It seems people either think the recoil is very bad or not that bad. I shoot one with a factory grip and no scope for additional weight and do not think it is that bad. I have seen many post over the months on this subject and it seems to be one way or the other, no middle ground. Intersting, guess it is just how each of us perceives recoil.

Here's something I've been curious about. The G2 grip angle is different than the previous Contenders. Has this changed felt recoil for anybody? It appears to be modeled after the Encore grip angle, which I believe was designed with recoil in mind, considering the larger bores available to Encore shooters.

Reason I ask is, I shoot a Bisley frame SBH in .44, and I find it more comfortable than a regular frame SBH, because of the grip angle. I've not shot a G2 to know; just curious.

Questor · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2004, 09:35:08 AM »

TeamNelson:

The Pachmayr foreend is significantly heavier than the walnut foreend and it does wonders in taming the recoil. I think that's why it's so popular with those who shoot hand cannons that recoil a lot. The Pachmayr gripper grip really helps too. It's much better than walnut (I'm talking the original contender, not G2. I don't know anything about G2.)