ejector to extractor

[DANNY-L]

The sticky shows cutting away a portion of the ejector to make it an extractor and recommend having another available (my guess is in case ya screw up) I didn't find ejector listed within the parts available. Do ya have to call and order or can it be done on line?

[quickdtoo]

The ejector to extractor modification you're referencing doesn't help stuck brass, it still uses spring power to remove the spent case, the factory style extractor works on stuck brass, but required machining of the underlug to install the extractor cam.

Numrich has some ejectors, but they aren't made any more, so are hard to find, specially for the 30-06 family of cartridges including the 243 which they were out of stock last I checked, but they stock all extractors as does H&R. Brownell's used to carry ejectors, but not any longer. 

Tim

[DANNY-L]

Thanks tim, my friend has the stuck case issue which I polished the heck out of this morning with flitz and a cordless drill but to windy and wet to be out shooting.  My 243 which is the same as his works fine but I would like to have the extractor instead of my brass boinging out if I don't catch them. I don't really see how ya can screw it up cutting it down as described in the sticky as long as ya take your time and polish it off good after the cutting,but there's always that chance I guess.

[petemi]

A lot of the folks here prefer ejectors.  I'm not one of them    I traded my ejector .45-70 with a member here for an extractor.  Why doesn't your friend join the forum and try posting a "Want to Trade" ad?  It'd be the easiest way.  All the newer stuff is all extractor.  He could also sell his barrel and buy another, or sell his and send the frame in for a new barrel.

Pete

[Sourdough]

I will not own a handi with an extractor.  I only want ejectors period.  Have only had one rifle fail to eject, the problem was the little BB thing was missing.  I had bought this rifle used and appearently the previous owner took it apart and lost a part.  Sent it to H&R they made repairs and it now works fine.  Without an ejector it is not a real hunting rifle.  I own TCRs, and Encores.  They seldom get to go hunting, because I can not remove the empty when my fingers are cold during the winter.  Ejectors eject and I catch the empty if I am interested in doing so.  Most of the time I don't have the time or inclination to catch it.  I want it gone so I can drop in a fresh shell and make another shot if needed.  I have usually called in two to five animals and need to make follow-up shots quickly.  At $400.00 a pelt, an empty case is the least of my concerns.

Then why do I carry a single shot you ask?  Reliability, and accuracy.  Handi's are almost indistructiable.
 

[Spanky]

Ejectors aren't reliable plain and simple. Anyone who bets their life on a .49 cent part that's bound to fail is asking for trouble...
H&R went to extractors for a reason... they work every time. You don't have to polish the chamber or do the BB trick or any of the other nonsense that comes with ejectors. You open the rifle and the empty extracts... no muss, no fuss and no chance of a brown bear eating you while you look for a cleaning rod to knock out the stuck empty.   Ejectors are a thing of the past for good reason... you can't count on them.
 
 
 
Spanky

[Sourdough]

Spanky, I have had H&Rs since I was 14, I'm now 63.  With the exception of two that failed to eject when new straight from the factory I have had no problems with ejectors.  Those two were fixed and have never failed since.  My two go to guns a 30-06 and a 25-06 have never failed to eject, and I am confident they won't.  If they should ever fail, that is why I carry a 460 S&W.

[Spanky]

I don't mean to make it sound like I'm singling you out Roger... I have no doubt that you know exactly what you're doing and that you have faith in your equipment. I do worry that someday something will happen to you because of a failure with one of the H&R's and I would hate to see it. It makes alot of sense to carry backup and I'm sure you're well armed with the 460. Like I said... I don't want to see anything happen to you or anyone else because of a crappy part that could fail.
As a side note... I would love to hunt side by side with you someday. The Alaskan wilderness must be breathtaking and to be able to hunt the largest game on the continent you are truly blessed.
 
 
 
Spanky

[Wagguy80]

Another way is to make yourself a little thumb ring out of a cheap $2 aluminum thumb splint.  Tear off the foam, and just hook it on the outside of your gloved thumb on your off-hand with some duct tape (or something else if you want to be fancy).  If your loading cigar style, then you just catch the round under the lip and flip it out with your thumb and drop the next in.


Still not as fast as an ejector when it works, however if your hunting where it's super cold, and you have thick gloves that might otherwise get in the way it's a solution. Also then your not worried about an ejector failing.

[Sourdough]

Wagguy80, I do have a hook made that I wear over my glove, on the middle finger of my left hand.  I use it when I am out calling during the winter at night, under a full moon or when we have good visibility.  Those nights I use a Savage 24 in .223/20ga.  That gun only has extractors.  I'll compromise with the Savage, I don't want the other shell to go flying when I open the gun to replace the one I fired.  But the Savage is not a single shot, it's a double barrel.

The extractor I use is a key ring that fits over my glove finger.  I took a piece of metal tubing about 3/16s in dia.  I cut it 3" long and formed a slight hook on the end.  It's loose to flop around when not in use.  To use I catch it between the two middle fingers on my left hand and use it to flip out the empty.  One little flick and the empty is gone.  with this I can flip out a .223 empty or a 20ga, depending on which one I shot.  Getting a fresh shell in is often harder than getting rid of the empty.  Especially the shot shells, plastic gets slick when cold.   For this close shooting I use military brass I pick up out at the range.  On any day I can go there and pick up a hundred or more, lying on the ground.  So when hunting I don't bother to pick up the .223 brass.  Can't find it in the snow anyway.  I do pick up the shot shells, they are not bio-degradable.

Oh yea, the piece of tubing I wear on my finger is wrapped in tape so it does not clink when it hits metal of the action.