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Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« on: November 01, 2012, 04:51:08 PM »
Texas woman forced to cover up 'Vote the Bible' T-shirt at polls  Published November 01, 2012
FoxNews.com    A Texas woman claims she was told that her "Vote the Bible" T-shirt may be offensive and was forced to cover up when she went to vote early at the City Hall in Taylor County, Texas last week, MyFoxAustin.com reported.
Attorney Jonathan Seinz, the president of Texas Values, says Kay Hill was ‘targeted because of her religious beliefs.’
 
He says he's prepared to defend Hill because he believes she was asked to give up her religious freedom in order to vote.
"This is obviously a religious free expression and no one should be put in a position having to choose religious freedom over deciding to vote," he said.
     
 
According to Texas law, a person cannot suggest how another person should vote by word, sign or gesture while in a polling place.
Williamson County said its poll volunteers were following state election laws, and besides there's only one word on that shirt that they have a problem with.
"The shirt did say vote so it did have to do with voting," said Williamson County Public Affairs Director Connie Watson.
 
Watson says the shirt violates state laws regarding elections.
"Electioneering or loitering within 100 feet of the entrance to the polling place or inside the polling place is not allowed. Electioneering would cover wearing a hat, a pen, a T-shirt or a sign that would indicate a position for a political party, candidate or a proposition," said Watson.
 
Seinz argues that Hill's shirt did none of that.
"Nothing says that you can't have a shirt that says vote the Bible. The last time I checked Republicans and Democrats, it's not a partisan issue on the bible," Seinz said.
An election worker gave Hill a jacket to cover up the T-shirt. In the end, she was able to vote.
 
Seinz says if Williamson County doesn't apologize to Hill and allow the shirt to be worn to the polls, they will file a formal complaint with the Attorney General.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 05:27:54 PM »
Vote Bible doesn't mean that much. Vote Jesus sounds better.   ;)
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 12:42:29 AM »
touchy touchy touchy, these bible voters... always lookin' for that persecution! to validate their beliefs...
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 05:32:03 AM »
Good Grief !! Give it a Rest...............both sides.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 05:50:42 AM »
Quote from: yellowtail3 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:29 AM
touchy touchy touchy, these bible voters... always lookin' for that persecution! to validate their beliefs...

There's no such thing as a bible voter.  Bible voter is a media creation invented by the "right-wing" media to influence elections.   :D
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 06:13:51 AM »
She would have been okay if the shirt just said "The Bible".
Its the way the word "Vote"was used that is a problem.
Election officials acted appropriately, possibly even graciously by offering her a coat and not having her arrested for violating the law.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 06:41:09 AM »
Quote from: Hairy Chest on November 02, 2012, 05:50:42 AM
Quote from: yellowtail3 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:29 AM
touchy touchy touchy, these bible voters... always lookin' for that persecution! to validate their beliefs...

There's no such thing as a bible voter.  Bible voter is a media creation invented by the "right-wing" media to influence elections.   :D
Whoa - if you're shirt says, Vote the Bible... then you're a bible-voter. Nothing pejorative there... chill, bro!
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 09:11:32 AM »
Quote from: yellowtail3 on November 02, 2012, 06:41:09 AM
Quote from: Hairy Chest on November 02, 2012, 05:50:42 AM
Quote from: yellowtail3 on November 02, 2012, 12:42:29 AM
touchy touchy touchy, these bible voters... always lookin' for that persecution! to validate their beliefs...

There's no such thing as a bible voter.  Bible voter is a media creation invented by the "right-wing" media to influence elections.   :D
Whoa - if you're shirt says, Vote the Bible... then you're a bible-voter. Nothing pejorative there... chill, bro!

 :D Maybe she works for the Fox News studio.  They printed the T-shirt to write the story. 
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 09:43:34 AM »
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 06:13:51 AM
She would have been okay if the shirt just said "The Bible".
Its the way the word "Vote"was used that is a problem.
Election officials acted appropriately, possibly even graciously by offering her a coat and not having her arrested for violating the law.
What  was  the  law  that  is  violated   here?
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 09:49:18 AM »
Quote from: mcbammer on November 02, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 06:13:51 AM
She would have been okay if the shirt just said "The Bible".
Its the way the word "Vote"was used that is a problem.
Election officials acted appropriately, possibly even graciously by offering her a coat and not having her arrested for violating the law.
What  was  the  law  that  is  violated   here?

Electioneering within 100 feet of a polling place.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 09:53:29 AM »
Quote from: BBF on November 02, 2012, 05:32:03 AM
Good Grief !! Give it a Rest...............both sides.

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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 10:03:46 AM »
It looks like it is only a separation of church and state and nothing more. Perhaps the people running the polling station didn't want any trouble from any side that could have been started over this .
Ok she had to cover it up. I have Jesus in my heart, so I don't need a picture or a tee shirt to remind me or anyone else about that. I also saw a man voting in 08 with a tee shirt supporting abortions, asked to cover it up before he came in, so it was enforced both ways at least there.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 10:54:54 AM »
This brings up something I have wondered about for years as to separation of church and state. I have only ever voted in Arkansas or Louisiana and in both places the voting polls were located in a church.

Is this a southern thing?
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 11:14:36 AM »
Quote from: Anna on November 02, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
It looks like it is only a separation of church and state and nothing more. Perhaps the people running the polling station didn't want any trouble from any side that could have been started over this .
Ok she had to cover it up. I have Jesus in my heart, so I don't need a picture or a tee shirt to remind me or anyone else about that. I also saw a man voting in 08 with a tee shirt supporting abortions, asked to cover it up before he came in, so it was enforced both ways at least there.

Quote from: arky65 on November 02, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
This brings up something I have wondered about for years as to separation of church and state. I have only ever voted in Arkansas or Louisiana and in both places the voting polls were located in a church.

Is this a southern thing?


The first legislative body in North America met in an Anglican Church in Williamsberg.  Church is a part of our American heritage.  No church, no America.  Get used to it. 
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 11:48:50 AM »
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The first legislative body in North America met in an Anglican Church in Williamsberg.  Church is a part of our American heritage.  No church, no America.  Get used to it.   
     HAIRY. WOW, Agreed Sir, but you shocked me.
Arky. No such thing as seperation of Church and state, only in the liberals dream world. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 11:50:42 AM »
My church is a polling place, probably because there aren't many other public buildings near.
Well, except Publix.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 11:56:12 AM »
i believe they were within rights to ask/demand that she cover it up

i believe it was stupid to do so

i believe it isn't worth media attention

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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 09:35:20 PM »
Quote from: arky65 on November 02, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
This brings up something I have wondered about for years as to separation of church and state. I have only ever voted in Arkansas or Louisiana and in both places the voting polls were located in a church.

Is this a southern thing?

In the sanctuary itself, or in something like the parish hall or school room?  On the other hand, so long as no attempt is made to promote that sect, and all voters are treated equally, there should be no problem. 

As for the woman with the "Vote the Bible" shirt - that was electioneering for a certain philosophical point of view.  Electioneering within a certain distance of a polling place is pretty much universally illegal in the US.  Good call by the poll workers.

While I agree with the sentiment (well, somewhat agree, since likely her view of Scripture is somewhat different from mine), she was in the wrong.

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I see this woman as someone wanting her 15 minutes of fame and a chance to wail about being a victim and having her rights trampled.  She needs to grow up.
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Re: Texas woman forced to cover her vote the Bible shirt at polls.
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2012, 02:52:03 AM »
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 11:50:42 AM
My church is a polling place, probably because there aren't many other public buildings near.
Well, except Publix.
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