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Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« on: November 06, 2012, 07:59:38 AM »
My partner and I have been planning a trip up the Haul Rd (Ice Road to you guys) leaving today.  We were going up to hunt Caribou, Arctic Fox, Wolves, and any thing else that will come into the call.  Weatherman was predicting it to go down to -12, but  the temp dropped to 30 below this morning.  (Little dog refused to go out this morning, had to pick him up and carry him half way down the driveway before letting him down).  We will wait a few days, till it warms back up a bit, no rush.  We are both retired and have all the time in the world.  Don't want to leave the wives behind with these temps, anything could happen.  Well freeze, boiler quite, or they could have vehicle problems. 

Truck is fueled, propane topped off, clothes loaded, generators tested and filled. (We are taking two).  Cereals, meats, TV dinners, water, and breads, in the camper.  Only have to load canned goods, don't want them to freeze.  Guns and ammo will go out last.  Taking two .22Mags, a .223, and a 25-06.  We are expecting to have mostly Arctic fox answer the calls, hence the .22 mags.  A .223 will blow one apart, it's messy even with solids.  The Wolves up there are mostly real light colored, almost White, the reason for the 25-06.  The .223 is a back-up.

Yes we are taking snowshoes and skis.  Predicted temps for the next five days at Prudhoe Bay is up in the teens, but snow every day.  Don't want to face Beaver Slide and Attigun Pass in snow.  I hate having to pull chains, especially on a duelly.
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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 08:05:05 AM »
Good luck on the trip.
I hear that spit will freeze before hitting the ground at 20 below, have any insight on other things freezing.

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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 08:06:26 AM »
here this morning it was around 30 , had ice on my windshield but I had to go to work  ;D , Hope ya'll get to hunt and get alot of shots.
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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 08:26:28 AM »
I don't mind 30 below as long as it's 30 degrees below 110F.

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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 11:37:01 AM »
I believe I'll just stay where I am. It was a frigid 47 degrees this morning and  managed to warm to 81 this afternoon.  ;)

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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 12:34:09 PM »
 Life and death there sounds like a fine line, good thinking on waiting a few days. Best of luck on your hunt,. Jeff
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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 01:04:20 PM »
52bagman:  When I was living in the dorm at Eielson AFB and had just came to Alaska, I learned a few things.  From the third floor window we could throw a bucket of cold water out the window at 50 below, and it turned to sharp icycles before hitting the ground.  Throw a bucket of hot water out the window at 50 below, and it would turn to ice fog and float away.

When it is that cold cross railroad tracks real slow.  I've seen the side walls so hard that the bead pops off the wheel, and then the tire works it's way off the wheel.  Or your springs break when hitting railroad tracks or pot holes.  If your vehicle has been outside over night, when you start it and start down the road, all 4 tires have flat spots on them.  Go slow till they round out, usually about a mile to a mile and a half.  If not again you will pop the bead off the wheel and the tire will work it's way off the wheel.  You don't want to be out there changing a wheel at 50 to 65 below.  Again if the vehicle has be3en outside over night, and has a small amount of snow on it, don't start it and let it run for a long time.  The snow will melt and run down the tires.  Once on the tires it will refreeze, freezing the tires to the ground.  If this happens place your vehicle in gear and slowly rock it back and forth till the tires break free.  I've seen a guy with a big truck go out and put the truck in low range.  He then floored the throttle.  He ripped the bottom of all four tires right off.  At those low temps the air dries out and static electricity is horriable.  You open the door to your vehicle and get out, then you realize you have to close the door.  You know when you touch the door it is going to knock the XXXX out of you.  You use your foot to shove the door to.  It does not close completely, and the light is still on.  Well suck it up and touch the door.  Your hand will only hurt for a few minutes, women will have to go to the ladies room when they go inside.  The roads are not slick, they are down right sticky.  Then after a few days it warms up and the whole world changes.

The roads get slicker than most people can imagine.  You are driving a pickup truck with rear wheel drive.  You come up to an intersection and you apply your brakes.  The truck keeps going and won't stop.  You have an automatic transmission, what do you do.  With your front wheel locked you can not steer either.  The back of the vehicle in front of you is coming up fast, what do you do.  standing on the brakes is doing no good.  Simple, being cold the engine is running faster than a normal idle, and is over riding the front brakes, and turning the rear wheels.  Slip the gear shifter into neutral, and you will stop.  That stops the power from going to the rear wheels.  One reason I prefer standard transmissions. 

You have a diesel vehicle.  You fuel it up in August, then go on vacation.  The truck sits for a few weeks, till you come back.  While you nwere gone they changed the fuel from #2 to #1.  You start driving your truck to work, then over night the temps drop to 10 of 15 below.  The truck won't start.  You stick a siphon hose into the fuel tank and try sucking fuel out of the tank.  You can't get anything to move up the hose.  The fuel has jelled.  You have to have the truck drug into a shop or garage where it is warm.  Once warmed drain all the fuel out of the vehicle, and injection system.  Replace with #1 fuel then everything is OK.  If you have an automatic transmission, some of them will not come out of park.  Trying to get them up on a wrecker without the tires turning can ruin the tires.  Another good reason to have a standard.

Don't stick your tongue to any thing metal.  I see this done every year by new people up here.  Grown men and women, with their tongues stuck to flag poles.  A few years ago I had the lock to the horse trailer freeze.  I was going to breath on it to thaw it enough to get the key in.  As I leaned close my foot slipped and my moist lips touched the door handle.  I left my lips on the handle, ouch.  You would not believe how many toddlers I have removed the storm door window with kid attached.  Taken them inside to thaw so tongues could be removed.

If you go into the bush during the winter, men and women quickly learn the advantage to the old Union Suite.
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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 03:45:44 PM »
Thats a grand old memory of me stuck to the outside screen door by my tongue, watching my folks through the window watching wonder woman~linda carter) on tv. I screamed till my dad saw me then while he ran for warm water I ripped it off. Bled for long time. You only do that once:-)
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Re: Postponing trip, Temp at 30 below this morning
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 04:02:14 PM »
# 1 diesel......good to know.  I've always used a tank heater.