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Offline cherokee75

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Looking into getting one.
« on: April 13, 2013, 03:32:16 AM »
I am looking into getting my first black powder revolver.  Possibly a 1858 New Army.  Any other suggestions?  Also, why do they seem so hard to find now?

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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 01:04:36 PM »
I have a few 1858 revolvers but I REALLY love my 1851 navy.  These are just perfect.  Very nice feel and fit my big hands even.  It is a 36 cal instead of 44.  But all that means to me is it is cheaper to shoot.

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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 05:37:04 PM »
I'd get a steel framed Remington '58 in .44 caliber.  Uses a .45 cal ball (yep it's backwards but .44 takes a .45) and about 35 gr. FFFg powder to nearly approximate the .45 colt.  The stronger frame of the Remington is capable of higher pressures than the '51.  If you really want a good one find a Ruger Old Army (uses a .457 round ball not .454), but they aren't made any longer and are getting costly now.  Failing that there are several companies making good replicas with the least expensive typically being the Traditions, but also available from Uberti and Cimmaron Arms and others.  Many are made in Italy or Spain.  One left of a good deal at Traditions if you are ready to buy one.
https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product/1858-army-revolver-.44-cal-steel-fr18582-02
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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 01:12:26 PM »
The 1858 Remington New Army is a great place to start. Just be sure to get a steel framed model, either Pietta or Uberti. I've had my Pietta for over fifteen years and it's performed without a hitch. While never owning an 1851 Colt model, I have had a couple Colt 1860 Army reproductions by Pietta and loved their balance and light actions. However they had a propensity to allow spent caps to fall into the action when cocking the hammer for the next shot, causing misfires. Welcome to the wonderful world of cap & ball revolvers!

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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 08:38:31 AM »
Ruger old army revolvers have never failed to disappoint me. I've had a few and I have two now. The 1858 Remington is my overall choice. The Colts look good  right up until they fall apart. I must mention that brass frames and Colts in 36 can survive. For a 44[45], a 58 Remington, Pietta or Uberti is a good starting point.


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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 05:10:14 PM »
Harder to get now because everything firearms related is scarce.  More research to decide if you really want one. They take more work to shoot and maintain. Steel over brass - 44 over 36 for your starting point.

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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 09:34:06 PM »
Before purchasing a cap and ball revolver, ask yourself honestly how well you maintain your modern revolvers.
Too many folks purchase cap and ball revolvers, thinking that they're cool and all, then neglect proper cleaning as too much work. Some are turned off by the slow loading process.
I've seen dozens of cap and ball guns in pawn shops, yard sales and gun shows with rusted bores and chambers because they were fired and never cleaned. And I've probably run across a dozen guys through the decades that said they bought one, then gave up cleaning it. "Just too much bother," is a common complaint.
Unless you are committed to cleaning the cap and ball revolver within no more than two days of firing it -- and sooner in particularly humid places -- I'd suggest you forsake getting one.
Yes, you can get a stainless steel Remington pattern, and that will resist rust, but much of the reason for cleaning is also to remove all the fouling created by black powder and its substitutes. That fouling hinders moving parts, causing them to drag. Black powder fouling is also mildly abrasive.
Black powder guns are not like modern ones, which can be cleaned days, weeks or months later without damage to the steel (depending upon the environment). They require extra care and commitment to maintenance.
If you're not up to that, buy a .22 pistol. It's probably the most benign cartridge made.
"A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .44."

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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 06:31:04 AM »
What Gatofeo said +1.  Failing that, if you still want one, even though I don't care for them, a steel framed version of the Remington Army (.44 cal)  or Navy (.36 cal) is probably your best bet.  They are easier to learn on.   My personal favorite; however, is a 2nd Gen or Uberti 1861 Navy.
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Re: Looking into getting one.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2013, 03:42:16 PM »
Really, isn't the 1861 Navy just about perfect?