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Offline Ranger99

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44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« on: November 21, 2012, 01:42:01 PM »
i have a 44/410 barrel i'd never taken
the choke out of until recent and it
dawned on me-  444 marlin rounds
fit in here.


anyone here know if that would be a
safe thing to do , or should that be
a stick-the-choke-back-in-and-forget-
i-ever-thought-of-it  type deal?


i already have a .44mag converted
to 444 super14 that is a great shooter,
i had just never thought to consider
the possibility before.
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 02:43:23 AM »
44 mag/410


are you sure? ??? ?
i know of many   45 colt  410  [have several myself]  but  never a 44


i  under stand  using  454 cassul  will be VERY dangeous


a 444  will not go in a 44mag chamber....i have both
444  will go into a 410  or 45-70...for that matter  a 50BMG   will chamber in a  12GA handi
BUT  WHT WOULD YOU
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 12:39:49 PM »
factory marked on the side "44 magnum"
with the removable choke tube.


never used it for anything but .410 shells
and never removed the tube until recent



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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2012, 02:27:26 PM »
i dont think its for a 410 maybe a 44 hotshot a 44mag loaded with bird shot
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2012, 02:31:30 PM »
You have a barrel that will shoot either .44 magnum single-bullet cartridges or T/C's .44 "Hot Shot" cartridges which have a plastic capsule filled with shot in place of a bullet.
 
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2012, 03:22:25 PM »
i  have  some 357  hotshot ammo



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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2012, 04:46:21 PM »
ok- thanks for the heads up.
i was unaware that the hotshot ammo
was that long. i also had thought all
those barrels had an external choke
with a hex section at the barrel-choke
junction.
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2012, 07:18:27 PM »
Never owned the "Hot Shot" version, but if it is anything like the regular 45Colt / 410 shotgun version, the "choke" is simply a section with straight rifling, designed to stop the spin of the shot column before it leaves the barrel, thereby improving shot patterns, and must be removed prior to firing single bullets thru the pistol cartridge.
 
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2012, 01:56:35 AM »
my  357 hotshot  is just a 1/2 ounce capsule
you load it into NORMAL BRASS.....but the capsule  made it waaaayyy  too  long for any revolver
i am sure the  44  is the same situation


they used to make a barrel for these  loads  with a raised ribb


did  you actually   fire a 410 in  it??


no  a 444  and  44 mag are  NOT  interchangeable....don't even shoot 44mag  in 444
not  any thing  like the 357 and 38
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2012, 06:11:36 AM »
the b.i.q.  has the standard adjustable rifle
type sights like my other cont. barrels that still
have the sights, and like the ones that i have
removed the sights from for scope use.
it is a standard bull barrel with no rib.
i've never shot a metallic cartridge through
this barrel, only 3" .410 shotshells.
since i've had it, the choke had never been out
until recently, when i got to thinking about
the .444 deal.


i believe i'll just stick the choke back in and
confine .444 use to the barrel i had re-chambered
20 some odd years ago.


i sure wasn't going to try that without some
opinions from experienced shooters.
thanks again for the posts
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2012, 07:03:58 AM »
can you post some pics  clear enought for us to read the barrel stamp??


you have really got my curiosity up  now
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2012, 07:34:35 AM »
could be a mis-stamped gun.....won't be the first


i got out some handi rifles  and  a 2.5 inch 410


no  way that is a 44 chamber......no matter what the sramp sas if you put a 410 in it
410 would go in 2 chambers  but with considerable force
then stop at the end of the chamber


the 410  went  into  my 454 cassul handi about right  until the chamber ran   out
454 cassul  will fit the chamber  of a judge 45/410...but don't shoot it


444 handi was a closer fit than the 44 mags were....but still a no go
45-70 handi.....might work in a pich  but why...real loose around the rim


45/410......didn't bother to drag those out....i know they work fine
i recall the chamber has a slight step just at the case mouth of the 45lc
haven't tried to see if that will keep the 454 out
just   look inside the bore and see where the rifling  starts
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2012, 12:24:29 PM »
TC made some 44MAG 10" bull barrels with an internal removeable choke for their 44 HotShot capsules as well as the more common octagons with external chokes.   Way too long ago to remember how they were maked, but I'd bet Ranger has one of them.
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2012, 08:38:07 AM »
Saw a barrel at a gunshow yesterday with a vent rib and an internal choke, tag said 44 Mag.  Sure enough that is what the barrel was marked also.  The choke was missing in this one.  I would have never  looked and assumed it was a 45/410 unless I had read this thread recently.  It was the first one I had seen.
 
Like Ladobe said, they were for the hot shot capsules.
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Re: 44 mag/ .410 contender barrel
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 06:40:24 AM »
I have 2 of the 44/hotshot  barrels and a 410 is way too big to even begin to enter the chamber.  Only the 45/410 will chamber a .410 shotshell. Could be a mis- stamp but more likely after Hotshot capsules became unavailable someone ran a .410 reamer into the .44 chamber.  H08
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